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davidstorm wrote:
Hi Chris, this one's a bit from the leftfield and I'm not sure if you have good eyesight, but had you considered a cheap manual focus 300mm prime? You can pick quality ones up for silly money.

Failing this, I would stick with the 55-300, the lightest possible option is a DA L version. Also, you mentioned a tripod; are you taking a monopod too as this will be much lighter / easier to carry and more flexible for framing shots quickly. It would be a godsend with a long lens, regardless of which one you decide upon.

Regards
David
Hi David

Thanks. I had considered a manual 300mm, but didn't really know what to look for. Eyesight is so-so, age and varifocals! I use manual focus all the time for macro work and find the focus indicator on my K-r to be very accurate. Not sure I have the skills to us it successfully on a moving (or even temporarily stationary) animal. They are usually gone by the time I have finished getting things 'just right'

Comment by milamber posted on Longer lens for safari? at 15/10/2012 - 21:34

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Gwyn wrote:
woodworm wrote:
No matter what lens you will buy there will be shots you miss.

For me, a safari was the greatest trip of my life and if I hadn't had a camera with me, it would still have been the best. You don't want to experience it all looking through a lens (even an expensive one!).
I will second all of the above, especially the advice to look without glass between you and Africa.

If I were to win the lottery the very very first thing I would do would be book another safari.

Whatever you decide upon you are in for a treat. But beware - once tasted never forgotten, and you will be longing for more.
Good advice. I read something similar from an ex news photographer. He reckoned he missed so much that he eventually didn't take a camera at all, once retired.

Too late for the other advice. We didn't travel at all for over 20 years when bringing the kids up. Went on our first long trip 2 years ago and have been on four more since. Mostly spend every moment at home wishing we were away again. It's actually really cheap at the moment if you are careful where and when you go. If we won the lottery I doubt we would be at home much at all. Just need the final kids to leave so we can downsize and use the money for travelling

India is my most longed for return so far

Comment by milamber posted on Longer lens for safari? at 15/10/2012 - 19:57

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Mike-P wrote:
What body are you using Chris?
K-r

Comment by milamber posted on Longer lens for safari? at 15/10/2012 - 19:50

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Mike-P wrote:
Frogfish wrote:

But if you buy used then you can get all/most of that back again on your return.
yes but these days a resale of this value can take a while. If you are lucky enough to be able to have a grand tied upin a lens then yes I would go for it he will also need something else well below 300mm I would have thought.
Unfortunately tying up £1000, even for a short time, isn't a possibility. I wish it was

Again, all the comments much appreciated and I have lots to think about. Whatever I decide I'll probably wish I had done differently.....

Comment by milamber posted on Longer lens for safari? at 15/10/2012 - 18:40

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Frogfish wrote:
Milamber - you are going on what for many would be the trip of a lifetime, pack less clothes and a pair of shoes less, then beg, borrow (rent) or steal the DA*300 + AFA x1.7)

The WR will come in very handy in those dusty conditions where you don't want to be changing lenses if you can help it.

Low light will kill many of the suggested lenses - f2.8 to f4 max !
Thanks. Lots to consider. Weight of luggage isn't going to be an issue - I have minimalist travelling down to a fine art. Cash on the other hand, especially after paying for the trip.....

Stopping over in Hong Kong for a few days first, so not too far from you. No need for the long lens there I guess, just the 10-20mm!

Comment by milamber posted on Longer lens for safari? at 15/10/2012 - 18:32

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Frogfish wrote:
You will need both long and short lenses as, depending on where you are going, animals come right up to the vehicles and so something like a 17-50/2.8 is going to be one you need.

For long you need really long and the 55-300 is soft at 300 and too slow (as often animals are most active early morning/dawn and late afternoon/dusk) also you are better shooting at 250 where the 55-300 is sharp and cropping to a 300 FoV.

Something like the Tamron 17-50/2.8 and then the Pentax DA*300/4 (plus the AFA x1.7 TC would be a must in my book) would be a lightish and small kit to cover most eventualities.
Cheers. I have the Sigma 10-20mm which I love and the DA 40mm Ltd so probably wouldn't need to duplicate that range. I don't tend to miss the 20-40mm range, but there is always a first time! Most of the game drives are going to be dawn/dusk so that isn't something I had considered with the 55-300mm so thanks. I also like shooting at night, where possible, but have the tripod for that.

Small and light, as far as possible is a must. I probably should just have kept the 18-250mm.

Haven't seen any prices for the 18-270mm yet, but rumoured to be quite pricey for what it is.

There is a Sigma 170-500mm for sale at a reasonable price on the forum, but the weight might be an issue. That said, I'm going to be in a vehicle for most of the game drives and can use the tripod from the lodge.

Comment by milamber posted on Longer lens for safari? at 15/10/2012 - 18:17

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Thanks for all the quick responses.

Just about covered everything that has gone through my head, but nice to see it from other points of view.

John - to be honest that's the sort of decision I had arrived at. The 55-300mm is lighter and more flexible. It was just a case of only likely to go once so I just wondered if it was worth the extra expense of something like the * 200mm/300mm's. Having looked at the 60-250mm the other day it's really a bit heavy and bulky, plus pretty expensive.

woodworm - I don't have anything longer than 50mm at the moment so nothing to use with a tele-converter. It's likely to be animals and birds. Luggage allowance will be 23kg and I already have a decent amount of proper light travelling gear so weight is unlikely to be an issue. Camera stuff tends to be my carry-on anyway.

Don - that is something else I have considered. The problem is I upgraded from a decent Panasonic bridge to a K-r because i wasn't happy with the image quality. I have considered selling the K-r because of the weight, but haven't found anything smaller that comes close in IQ. Other than that it makes absolutely perfect sense, especially with the zooms available. Seen the X-5 very cheap, much less than a used 55-300mm, but reviews have been pretty negative.

Hiring from SRS is a possibility, but it's likely to cost a lot more than any loss I might make on a lens purchase, plus I would be terrified of damaging it. Looking at the DA* 300mm and 60-250mm it's going to be around £270 plus insurance for the 32 days. £202 for the 55-300mm which I could buy one for.

Appreciate all the comments. Thanks

Comment by milamber posted on Longer lens for safari? at 15/10/2012 - 18:07

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I have the chance to go to South Africa early next year. I don't usually tend to need a longer lens these days and have recently sold my Pentax 18-250mm in favour of lighter kit due to health issues (DA 40mm ltd - can't get much lighter)

I'm not going to get up close and personal with much South African wildlife with that, or my Sigma 10-20mm, so will need something longer. It will probably be a purchase for this specific trip and then sell on so I will probably look for used or something like one of the SRS ex-demo deals that crop up.

Probably too long a trip for hiring a lens - going to be a month or so.

I can read all the reviews I want, but would appreciate some input from actual users. The obvious choice is the 55-300mm, but given that used prices are holding up pretty well (I had the 18-250mm for about a year and got my money back) I might consider something more expensive as I'm unlikely to lose much when I sell it.

Bottom line is there a significant enough difference between the 55-300mm and something like the DA* 200mm or DA* 300mm to justify the additional cost? Would a crop from a DA* 200mm be better than a 300mm image from the 55-300mm? Is there any other lens I should consider?

Weight is an issue so probably rules out Sigma 150-500mm or similar, though the reach would be nice. Needs to be capable of being hand held much of the time.

I'm unlikely to go there again so want to get it right.

Comment by milamber posted on Longer lens for safari? at 15/10/2012 - 16:56

milamber
MattMatic wrote:
My guess is you've enabled lens correction on the camera

The DA lenses are "known" and will be corrected for distortion and CA but the older FA lenses will just save immediately (because the camera won't be know the correction details).

Personally, I do all the corrections in LR anyway from RAW and so leave in camera correction turned off

Matt
That's it. You know you are getting old when you can only remember things when someone reminds you.

Comment by milamber posted on fa lens on my k5 at 14/10/2012 - 18:06

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I had the same strange processing time difference with my Pentax 18-250mm and another lens. I can't remember which lens it was and which was the fast one and which was the slow one. Someone did explain it, but I can't remember what they said. So all in all not a lot of use except that I was told it was completely normal and nothing to worry about

Comment by milamber posted on fa lens on my k5 at 14/10/2012 - 17:03

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