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Comment by K10D posted on So how good is the K-5 sensor at 09/11/2010 - 23:20
johnriley wrote:
Although the rules are being rewritten yet again with the new models, the general principle will be lower MP count = lower noise.
So the *istDS is less noisy than the K10D.
However, as the electronics improve also, this may well mean there are now lower noise higher pixel density cameras, at least it looks that way.
What I liked about the K-r was the sharp noise structure at the highest ISO. I could live with that and use it to advantage.
The K-r mey yet be the "killer" selling model. Don't get me wrong, for those photo techies that read the tech details of the paper, the K-5 is a must. For the general public, point and shoot and "I want top notch image quality at the cheapest price" brigade, the K-r is probably a god send.Although the rules are being rewritten yet again with the new models, the general principle will be lower MP count = lower noise.
So the *istDS is less noisy than the K10D.
However, as the electronics improve also, this may well mean there are now lower noise higher pixel density cameras, at least it looks that way.
What I liked about the K-r was the sharp noise structure at the highest ISO. I could live with that and use it to advantage.
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Comment by K10D posted on So how good is the K-5 sensor at 09/11/2010 - 00:00
Smeggypants wrote:
I've never considered, and don't even care, what people think I look like for carrying a camera around.
You mean that there are other people about other than the one in my sights?gubak wrote:
Lenses: Pentax has small pancake lenses called limited lenses. Try these if you are new to Pentax. They are superb and great to walk around with without looking like a dork.
ROFL.Lenses: Pentax has small pancake lenses called limited lenses. Try these if you are new to Pentax. They are superb and great to walk around with without looking like a dork.
I've never considered, and don't even care, what people think I look like for carrying a camera around.
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Comment by K10D posted on Pentax K-5 pros/cons at 08/11/2010 - 23:56
Smeggypants wrote:
I believe that my K10D is lower noise than my K7 for low light?K10D wrote:
Seems to be a lot of chatter about sensors?
Years ago the same argument was on film brand. What changed?
I tend to think that the sensor does not make the final image.
It does for low light shooting if one sensor is noisy as hell and another is clean.Seems to be a lot of chatter about sensors?
Years ago the same argument was on film brand. What changed?
I tend to think that the sensor does not make the final image.
But this goes back to time scales. There are other bodies that did low light, low noise before we got the K5 and if low light shooting was important or required, you had the opportunity to do it at least two years ago. Maybe not with Pentax but the facility was and still is there.
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Comment by K10D posted on So how good is the K-5 sensor at 08/11/2010 - 23:51
johnriley wrote:
You can see the difference between cameras with the same sensor because it depends also upon the processing.
Fair enough with JPEGs, but also RAW capture is not totally free from processing either. The output from the various photosites has to be combined and mixed up to make a continuous image and colours have to be guessed and averaged by the camera.
Lovely vague statement there, but in essence what I'm saying is that the way this is all done will affect the final result.
I do agree John, also as far as RAW goes with its "processing" hence Mr Rockwells term of "true raw", yet he negates to bring in the chemical development issues.You can see the difference between cameras with the same sensor because it depends also upon the processing.
Fair enough with JPEGs, but also RAW capture is not totally free from processing either. The output from the various photosites has to be combined and mixed up to make a continuous image and colours have to be guessed and averaged by the camera.
Lovely vague statement there, but in essence what I'm saying is that the way this is all done will affect the final result.
There may be those out there that could say that an image was taken on a "xyz" camera but thats a thin may be.
I'm forever impressed by the IQ of my istD yet have never had large prints done from it, so I can't say it equals or betters another model.
Seeing images on screen along side another model does show subtle differences, yet once they are up on a web site or printed it's nigh impossible to say which is what.
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Comment by K10D posted on So how good is the K-5 sensor at 08/11/2010 - 23:45
Edinburgh and Fife area have a lot to see and photograph, it's also not too far up the road for most?
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Comment by K10D posted on Scotland Meet at 08/11/2010 - 23:31
Seems to be a lot of chatter about sensors?
Years ago the same argument was on film brand. What changed?
I tend to think that the sensor does not make the final image.
Although the D7000 uses the same sensor, it's a different animal to the K-5.
If all EXIF data were removed from images, how many people would be able to identify one "marks" image from another?
As mentioned above with the reference to speakers, there's more to an image than a sensor. That said, there are those that think CCD are better than CMOS?
Great images on film... what a minefield those days were.
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Years ago the same argument was on film brand. What changed?
I tend to think that the sensor does not make the final image.
Although the D7000 uses the same sensor, it's a different animal to the K-5.
If all EXIF data were removed from images, how many people would be able to identify one "marks" image from another?
As mentioned above with the reference to speakers, there's more to an image than a sensor. That said, there are those that think CCD are better than CMOS?
Great images on film... what a minefield those days were.
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Comment by K10D posted on So how good is the K-5 sensor at 08/11/2010 - 23:27
gubak wrote:
Lenses: Pentax has small pancake lenses called limited lenses. Try these if you are new to Pentax. They are superb and great to walk around with without looking like a dork.
OMG, If you don't currently own a pancake lens- Lenses: Pentax has small pancake lenses called limited lenses. Try these if you are new to Pentax. They are superb and great to walk around with without looking like a dork.
Your a dork.
Tough for sports and wildlife photog's.
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Comment by K10D posted on Pentax K-5 pros/cons at 08/11/2010 - 09:28
johnriley wrote:
Only physically identical. As for capacity, most manufacturers put capacity figures of slightly different values, yet never show discharge/capacity data. Quote:
The K10D uses the same battery (D-LI50) as originally used by the Maxum 7D (NP 400) identical batteries which pleased me no end to have a common battery platform.
No, it doesn't. It may be the same or a similar size physically, but the NP400 is 1500 mAh and the Pentax DL-I50 is 1620 mAh. The K10D uses the same battery (D-LI50) as originally used by the Maxum 7D (NP 400) identical batteries which pleased me no end to have a common battery platform.
Either way, the Minolta 7D and K10D battery is directly interchangeable link
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Comment by K10D posted on So how good is the K-5 sensor at 07/11/2010 - 12:11
Mike-P wrote:
Mike that's one statement too short. davidtrout wrote:
My order for a K5 goes off first thing Monday. Can anyone tell me, is the battery in a K5 the same as a K10?
David
No, its the same as the K-7 (which is different to the K10D)My order for a K5 goes off first thing Monday. Can anyone tell me, is the battery in a K5 the same as a K10?
David
No harm to mention it's a D-LI190.
The K10D uses the same battery (D-LI50) as originally used by the Maxum 7D (NP 400) identical batteries which pleased me no end to have a common battery platform.
Then things changed with the K7 and the D700.
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Comment by K10D posted on So how good is the K-5 sensor at 07/11/2010 - 05:39
Yesterday I took the time to read the user manuals for the K5 and D7000.
They both use the same sensor. Interesting to see how the two companies electronics differ. No details here but if any are intersted, the manuals highlight some major differences in operation and performance.
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