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Comment by jules posted on *WANTED* Pentax K3 at 04/08/2015 - 22:17
cabstar wrote:
Can't let sigma corner the market but equally no chance of that or the new siggys in K mount. Half the price of the Pentax when it gets to the street, take note Ricoh!Mike-P wrote:
At the end of the day we either use what we have to the best of our ability (admittedly some people use it better than others) or we sell up and change to another system that will ( hopefully) get us the shots we want.
Canon gear is all well and good but it's certainly no quick fix, I did notice an interesting looking 200-500mm lens announced from Nikon today though.
Great price too £1139 according to Jessops Algernon wrote:
Stop moaning and go out and learn to be a better skilled photographer
It's all down to technique with what you've got.
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And that just about sums it up.Stop moaning and go out and learn to be a better skilled photographer
It's all down to technique with what you've got.
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At the end of the day we either use what we have to the best of our ability (admittedly some people use it better than others) or we sell up and change to another system that will ( hopefully) get us the shots we want.
Canon gear is all well and good but it's certainly no quick fix, I did notice an interesting looking 200-500mm lens announced from Nikon today though.
It's things like this that lose market share almost instantly...
Comment by jules posted on b&h take on K-3ii at 04/08/2015 - 18:51
Mike-P wrote:
At the end of the day we either use what we have to the best of our ability (admittedly some people use it better than others) or we sell up and change to another system that will ( hopefully) get us the shots we want.
Canon gear is all well and good but it's certainly no quick fix, I did notice an interesting looking 200-500mm lens announced from Nikon today though.
We could all do with learning the intracacies of various camera autofocus systems I'm sure, where Pentax has fallen down and in fact face planted itself is in the fact that they have never really expanded on the AF system in the K3 "Ideal for sports" so they say and a couple of videos that supposedly show the new AF system working but thats it, Algernon wrote:
Stop moaning and go out and learn to be a better skilled photographer
It's all down to technique with what you've got.
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And that just about sums it up.Stop moaning and go out and learn to be a better skilled photographer
It's all down to technique with what you've got.
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At the end of the day we either use what we have to the best of our ability (admittedly some people use it better than others) or we sell up and change to another system that will ( hopefully) get us the shots we want.
Canon gear is all well and good but it's certainly no quick fix, I did notice an interesting looking 200-500mm lens announced from Nikon today though.
And this webpage... http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/en/digital-slr/description/K3.html
I've spent a few months trying to work it out for myself, and coming from both Canon and nikon systems, I thought I knew AF pretty well but I'm not really any the wiser with the K3 in the end I've turned the hold off and just started using nine spots or 27 if the subject is jiving, K3 is currently sat in my cupboard, where it's been the last month...
mille19 wrote:
jules wrote:
Dave,
When your out shooting Birds and critters, I think you'll find yourself the only Pentax photographer there and thats your answer really...
You are right though the K3 image quality is the best of it's ilk...
Unless I'm lurking in the bushes somewhere Dave,
When your out shooting Birds and critters, I think you'll find yourself the only Pentax photographer there and thats your answer really...
You are right though the K3 image quality is the best of it's ilk...
mille19 wrote:
jules wrote:
Dave,
When your out shooting Birds and critters, I think you'll find yourself the only Pentax photographer there and thats your answer really...
You are right though the K3 image quality is the best of it's ilk...
Unless I'm lurking in the bushes somewhere Dave,
When your out shooting Birds and critters, I think you'll find yourself the only Pentax photographer there and thats your answer really...
You are right though the K3 image quality is the best of it's ilk...
Comment by jules posted on b&h take on K-3ii at 04/08/2015 - 15:15
Algernon wrote:
Stop moaning and go out and learn to be a better skilled photographer
It's all down to technique with what you've got.
You don't need anything better than a K-5 and Sigma 150-500mm for bird photography. To quote this photographer (below) "I am very pleased with both the PENTAX bodies who've used .. and the Sigma 150-500. I think for professional use this system is more than adequate.I have photographed all systems and lenses, and certainly what I get from my system enough for me."
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/115-pentax-k-5/215441-k-5-sigma-50-500-os.htm...
Quote again:
"this is a result which could not achieve even 1DMk4 and 100-400"
http://www.pictureshack.us/images/4286IMGP8304web.jpg
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Now Into your Anderson shelter with you Algi!Stop moaning and go out and learn to be a better skilled photographer
It's all down to technique with what you've got.
You don't need anything better than a K-5 and Sigma 150-500mm for bird photography. To quote this photographer (below) "I am very pleased with both the PENTAX bodies who've used .. and the Sigma 150-500. I think for professional use this system is more than adequate.I have photographed all systems and lenses, and certainly what I get from my system enough for me."
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/115-pentax-k-5/215441-k-5-sigma-50-500-os.htm...
Quote again:
"this is a result which could not achieve even 1DMk4 and 100-400"
http://www.pictureshack.us/images/4286IMGP8304web.jpg
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Comment by jules posted on b&h take on K-3ii at 04/08/2015 - 11:54
dcweather wrote:
I am predominantly a wildlife and mainly bird photographer. I love my K3 and the image quality is exceptional. But as I have said time and time again and I've never seen it disputed by a serious Pentax wildlife shooter it cannot compete with the opposition for speed of focusing and tracking with it's telephoto lenses. It has improved and it is possible to get some shots with the right techniques and settings and a lot of effort. But, and it's a big but, I have literally stood next to my friend and used his Canon for virtually the same shots and the focus seems instant in comparison.
I am as ever, prepared to listen to alternate views from serious bird photographers but not those taking shots of gigs at night or aeroplanes!
Dave
"I should have said speed of AF and tracking ability, apologies".I am predominantly a wildlife and mainly bird photographer. I love my K3 and the image quality is exceptional. But as I have said time and time again and I've never seen it disputed by a serious Pentax wildlife shooter it cannot compete with the opposition for speed of focusing and tracking with it's telephoto lenses. It has improved and it is possible to get some shots with the right techniques and settings and a lot of effort. But, and it's a big but, I have literally stood next to my friend and used his Canon for virtually the same shots and the focus seems instant in comparison.
I am as ever, prepared to listen to alternate views from serious bird photographers but not those taking shots of gigs at night or aeroplanes!
Dave
Dave,
When your out shooting Birds and critters, I think you'll find yourself the only Pentax photographer there and thats your answer really...
You are right though the K3 image quality is the best of it's ilk...
Comment by jules posted on b&h take on K-3ii at 04/08/2015 - 10:53
Love mine though I never use the damn thing but it is a lovely lens, Sharp just about everywhere and as Mike sats it plays very well with the 1.4 AW convertor, plus it's about half a kilo or more lighter than a lot of the F2.8 Pro zooms...
Comment by jules posted on Pentax 60 -250 how good is it? at 02/08/2015 - 08:11
cabstar wrote:
Hi Jules
The AF on the D750 works in the dark but hunts for a split second where as on the k-5 I always found it lock on straight away with no hunting. I bought the D750 because the low light AF is so poor on the D600 and is supposed to be an improvement and it is, but not in Pentax league yet....
Good to know Gary! I agree the AF on the 600 was poor, as the focus mask was lifted out of the D7000, fair do's they gave it plenty of cross sensors and even some F8 ones but they were even more in the middle than the ones everyone complains about on the K3!Hi Jules
The AF on the D750 works in the dark but hunts for a split second where as on the k-5 I always found it lock on straight away with no hunting. I bought the D750 because the low light AF is so poor on the D600 and is supposed to be an improvement and it is, but not in Pentax league yet....
See all of you! Pentax does get some things right!
Mike-P wrote:
As I said in my Airshow thread, I took along both the 7D (MKI) / Sigma 150-600mm and K-5IIs / 150-450mm and I shot them side by side, mostly at exactly the same settings. The Canon was possibly 50-60% better at tracking the subject but I actually kept more of the Pentax shots because I preferred the image quality. In the time I had the K-3 I felt the AF tracking was certainly a little better than the K-5II but not enough to warrant the hit in ISO and DR performance.
Hopefully the K-3II is (as Pentax claim) much better at tracking but I have read quite a few posts from real world users and have seen nothing to convince me of that yet. If Pentax did bring out a camera to match the AF performance of the 6 year old 7D they would have something quite special IMO, especially when paired up with the 150-450mm.
Mike, at the risk of getting banned, have you tried a 7D MkII yet? I'd be interested in a noise comparison to the K3, although A lot of people have a hang up about the amount of noise in the K3 files, compared to anything else (APSC, except maybe the Samsung NX1) with 20+ Mp they are by far the best, K3 wipes it's bottom with 7D files but your awkward Mike and you want some of them in focus as well, theres always one...richandfleur wrote:
As long as you stay in the middle of the frame...
And your subject is a 3 wheeled trike with a maximum speed of 30MPH Mike-P wrote:
I think it would have been more accurate to say AF tracking performance.
But Pentax does this so wellI think it would have been more accurate to say AF tracking performance.
As long as you stay in the middle of the frame...
As I said in my Airshow thread, I took along both the 7D (MKI) / Sigma 150-600mm and K-5IIs / 150-450mm and I shot them side by side, mostly at exactly the same settings. The Canon was possibly 50-60% better at tracking the subject but I actually kept more of the Pentax shots because I preferred the image quality. In the time I had the K-3 I felt the AF tracking was certainly a little better than the K-5II but not enough to warrant the hit in ISO and DR performance.
Hopefully the K-3II is (as Pentax claim) much better at tracking but I have read quite a few posts from real world users and have seen nothing to convince me of that yet. If Pentax did bring out a camera to match the AF performance of the 6 year old 7D they would have something quite special IMO, especially when paired up with the 150-450mm.
Comment by jules posted on b&h take on K-3ii at 29/07/2015 - 22:58
cabstar wrote:
Gary Pentax's see in the dark! I've always found the AF performance in dim conditions of Nikon bodies to be a little optomistic but it's disappointing to hear that the D750 does not fare as well as the Pentax, I've had both 600's and both 800's and concur none of them was as good as my K5IIs or K3.dcweather wrote:
It does concern me though that in a balanced review there is no mention of AF performance at all, which as we know is the one area that has aspects which lag behind the competition.
Dave
Does it? The k-5 Mkii has the best low light af of any system. My D750 is supposed to af at -3ev like the k-5mkii and all top line Pentax dslr since and it's not a patch on my old k-5 Mkii which in near dark conditions locked on instantly.It does concern me though that in a balanced review there is no mention of AF performance at all, which as we know is the one area that has aspects which lag behind the competition.
Dave
AF performance means different things to different people and it depends what your priorities are I suppose, if you shoot in dark enviroments you need a reliable lock on and a big sensor, to cope with the lack of ambient light. Others just want blazing autofocus speed and tracking that allows you to just wave the camera at the subject (Where's the fun in that? :shock. Guess there is nothing perfect for everybody and everyones take on what autofocus performance means seems to be different...
AF with Pentax bodies always ends up in a long drawn out argument I'd rather not take part in...
I'm pretty happy with what I'm using at the moment but then I'm not really pushing the envelope!
Comment by jules posted on b&h take on K-3ii at 29/07/2015 - 13:15
richandfleur wrote:
As long as you stay in the middle of the frame...
Put yer hard hat on Richard!Mike-P wrote:
I think it would have been more accurate to say AF tracking performance.
But Pentax does this so wellI think it would have been more accurate to say AF tracking performance.
As long as you stay in the middle of the frame...
Comment by jules posted on b&h take on K-3ii at 29/07/2015 - 13:02
will6558 wrote:
Looking for a Pentax K3 - being widely over optimistic looking around the £400 mark say £420 with postage. Probably along way off but if you don't ask you don't get
Trade in value at SRS is only around the £350 mark at the moment, so your not a long way out by any means but if you could up it a bit you may get some takers Looking for a Pentax K3 - being widely over optimistic looking around the £400 mark say £420 with postage. Probably along way off but if you don't ask you don't get
Comment by jules posted on *WANTED* Pentax K3 at 28/07/2015 - 12:19
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Trade in value at SRS is only around the £350 mark at the moment, so your not a long way out by any means but if you could up it a bit you may get some takers
It must be all of 8 months ?
Not selling but it's not seeing much use at the moment either, due to some family commitments and trialing another system for a month with a very generous offer to buy said kit at a reduced price at the end of my testing...
Anyway there may or may not be a K3 coming back on here shortly but I don't want to hijack the thread any further, so I'll leave it at that for now...