I'm just making a general point, not a specific one. For example, what about the photographer who sues someone for using an image without permission, but processed it on an unlicenced copy of Photoshop? Is his (or her) answer to that, "Well, we're small fry, Adobe don't care?" or "Everybody does it don't they?" - it's again hypothetical, but I've heard similar things many times.

At one time it was making a copy of a CD for the car "Well I've bought it, it's mine", or probably lots of other examples I haven't thought of yet.

It boils down to a total misunderstanding by most (maybe) non-photographers that anything "in the public domain" (i.e., published) is fair game. We know that isn't so, but many people don't.

Algi, I'm sorry, but the effect you're seeing is real enough, but the reasons for it you are mis-interpreting. We all know that telephoto lenses appear to compress things, but that compression is still there (albeit a tiny part of the view) in a wide angle shot from the same spot.

You are just misunderstanding something, so better to look into it and see why. It's there to be seen and at least two of us have provided pairs of images to help you understand. We can't do any more.

Finally, nobody compared you to generator, the comment did not mean that, so please don't misunderstand that.

I think enough has been said so I'm going to close this thread to avoid any escalation.

There's something a bit awry here. If someone pinched a photo and thought it was funny to do so, would the photographer be impressed?

Algi, I haven't done anything apart from scan Pentax's images from "The Eyes" - give it up please.

Competitions can spur people onwards and help them to improve their photography. There are some caveats to that, not for this thread.

The atmosphere of a club can vary very dramatically, but of course it depends on who the members are and what they are like as a mix. Some will suit us, some won't.

This sort of thing happens when the RAW converter sees bits of the file that aren't the image. It tends not to happen with Photoshop and I presume it doesn't with Pentax's own software either.

You could try seeing if the programs it does happen in have any updates available.

I think the other one might be from the last e-mail that Adobe sent out. They sent another today extending the offer.

I'm still not buying, but we'll see.

Clearly there is still some misunderstanding over this, so I'll let Pentax themselves demonstrate it.



The picture on the right is shot using a 200mm lens. The picture on the left, marked A, is shot from the same position using a 28mm lens. The centre of the 28mm image has been enlarged to show the same field of view as the 200mm. The perspective in both images is exactly the same.

These are two different offers Mike, the one I've quoted is CC, the other one is a stand-alone purchase.

Adobe are currently offering 30% off LR5 and CC at £8.78 per month - www.adobe.com