Dream on, chaps.

We'll see who's right in three years time.

Kim,

Neither of us is going to win this argument! Time alone will tell.

And as for vinyl making a comeback, surely it's the players that are being produced (in minute numbers), not the discs.

G

Kimbo,

I do agree that disposables may keep one film type in production for a while, but you won't find disposables loaded with emulsions like Velvia.

The problem is that film production requires expensive machinery and long production runs. There will come a point where it just won't be economical to continue. Nor will it be economical for the High Street processors to keep processing film, so you will have to post them away.

In the end, it'll all be just too much hassle.

Kim,

Everybody is permitted their little idiosyncracies, and not liking the Z1-P is yours.

As for digital being better, and film being dead; I would never argue (at this stage of the game) that digital beats film on the basis of quality. However, on the basis of cost and convenience, it beats it hands-down. That's why film is fast disappearing, and when it's no longer economical to make, it will disappear completely. It's the same as CDs versus vinyl.

Of course, if diehard film lovers are willing to pay a lot more for film than they have done in the past, and thereby make small production runs profitable, then no doubt film will continue to be made.

So, it's up to you!

Oi, Kim, what are you doing agreeing with me? Thought that was against your principles.

G

I'm certainly not knocking the MZ-M, and if there are two on Ebay, then that is definitely an opportunity to explore. As I said, my experience has been that they are rare on Ebay, compared to the other cameras I listed (1 MF and 1AF), so I didn't mention them.

The MZ-M isn't AF, and it's not IMHO as good as a Super A. It is also rare on Ebay.

Assuming that price is an issue, the Super A is the best Pentax manual-focus camera with aperture and shutter priority options, and sells for £60-£80 on Ebay.

The SFX and SFXn are solid, well-made, AF cameras which go for very little money on Ebay. Their AF is often derided, but it works perfectly well in normal lighting conditions. The cameras have a full range of auto/manual exposure options.

Check before you buy however, because I have a couple of SFXs, and for some bizarre reason they don't work with one Sigma lens I have.

Sorry, forgot the DA lenses, and of course the FAJ. Basically, any Pentax auto-focus lens will "do" MTF.

Modulation transfer function.

This only works (I believe) with F and FA lenses, which are able to tell the computer what they are. From this information, the camera works out the optimum setttings for aperture and shutter speed, so that if the lens is particularly good or bad at a particular aperture, the camera will try to select/avoid that setting.

I suspect that many people never use it.

If you want to see a really bad manual, buy a Minolta!