Thanks Peter, going to shop around a bit and see what I can come up with, if anyone on here see's one of these lenses going for a reasonable price then let me know....assuming you dont want it yourself!

Cheapest i''ve found so far is £395 (new)

While on the subject of Sigma Lenses.....

Has anyone had any experience with the 135-400, I find my humble* Pentax 80-320 a little "short" on occasion and the above Sigma seems to be the best option without breaking the bank. I could buy both this lens and the K10D for the same price as my istD two years ago.


*by humble I mean the price tag in contrast to the Sigma

John

I would reccomend you seriously consider manual focus if you can, KA lenses are pretty reasonable, you could be lucky enough to pick up a 50mm f1.7 for £30+ whereas a KAF prime will set you back a few hundred quid or more, its not that long ago I sold a K mount 50mmF1.7 and 135mm f2.8? (or was it f3.5)...worst thing I ever did despite the lack of functiuonallity on my D, as soon as I have the cost of the K10D covered I will be looking to replace both of those with KA equivelents.

Pentax really need to get their act together with the K10D or people wont know of its existence, I mean c'mon, can you honestly see salesmen pushing Pentax if they have Canon stock on their shelves, they are going to ride on Canons "popularity" in the hope of getting a sale.

As for photo mags reviews being biased due to "incentives" from manufacturers, I can say from experiance that I bought Pentax because of one such review, Practical Photographys review of the MZ7.

Whats wrong with wasps. theyre cute! get a bit of jam or honey on a spoon and entice them from bashing thier heads on the window.

So if you dont like them would you have got that close had it been alive and kicking?

That spider is quite a handsome chap as well, very nice shot, wish i'd taken it!

Hey, with one less mouth to feed you could afford even more gear!

That 50mm A series lens is rubbish, you need to dispose of it very quickly, you need to PM me and offer me it for a fiver.....

Hmmm!

I have the 80-320, cant say as I have been impressed so far, but I suppose most of my problems are down to camera shake. when extended the lens looks like a telescope and with no tripod bush it a very difficult bit of kit to use, (not being a great lover of toting tripods around) will keep it till I get the K10D then see what I can do with it.

this is bad enough for a winning entry, but for "every" entry, what a rip-off!

Damm!

now my wife wants me to buy THAT version of photoshop, I keep telling "its not real dear...its a commercial"

Speaking of turkeys......

It wont be long before its turkey time over here either, something like 76 shopping days left maybe santa will bring us all a K10D.

Dons post just reminded me of Pat, a good friend of my wifes, a very caring spiritual person who wouldn't hurt a fly (you know the type) anyway, her husband tells her he's got the turkey sorted and not to order one, a day or so before christmas he comes home with said turkey, still covered in feathers and barely cold, Pat being Pat felt so sorry for the bird that she buried it in the back garden, cant recall what they had for christmas dinner but it sure wasn't turkey!