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I love the way you have it framed!!
Comment by Father Ted posted on Sunrise at 20/10/2009 - 12:26
aminstar wrote:
So will that make me just a photographer?
I don't think "just" sits well in that sentence So will that make me just a photographer?
I had you in mind when I started this, as an artist, so I'm glad you agree wiht me on that.
However, I'd never say Lilly is "Just" anything, her shots are gorgeous. Likewise with Paul, his street shots are sublime ( IMHO ), but I'd call them photography as opposed to art.
Oh...what have I gotten myself into??
Comment by Father Ted posted on Artist or Photographer? at 20/10/2009 - 11:46
Joe S wrote:
Yep, I did like that myself Don wrote:
If four out of five grown adults proclaim "It costs how much? My five year old could've made that!" I assume it must be art.
This is the closest we'll come to a definition. Thanks for the laugh.If four out of five grown adults proclaim "It costs how much? My five year old could've made that!" I assume it must be art.
Comment by Father Ted posted on Artist or Photographer? at 19/10/2009 - 21:33
johnriley wrote:
You need to have the technical ability to be able to reliably create images that convey the message.
I was going to argue against you John. But, I googled Photojournalism and selected images. Having looked properly at the images which came up, I now see that a lot of "War zone" type shots are actually very carefully composed and don't just rely on the subject in order to make a statement.You need to have the technical ability to be able to reliably create images that convey the message.
Even more respect for war photographers now!
Comment by Father Ted posted on Content or Form at 19/10/2009 - 21:24
Joe S wrote:
Nothing is art if it's not part of the art institution.
Does that mean that anything which is part of the institution IS art? Because I find a lot of the modern stuff to be a case of the Emporer's New Clothes.Nothing is art if it's not part of the art institution.
I mean..Tracy Emmen?? An unmade bed??? Sorry, but I "created" that this morning
(BTW ... You got the spelling right )
Comment by Father Ted posted on Artist or Photographer? at 19/10/2009 - 21:14
Please, let's discuss.
From a novice point of view; it's great to let the experts discuss the finer points, whilst I sit on the sideline and learn
From a novice point of view; it's great to let the experts discuss the finer points, whilst I sit on the sideline and learn
Comment by Father Ted posted on Content or Form at 19/10/2009 - 21:02
Not heard of him...but I'll go take a look.
However, i could almost say the same the other way around. I love landscapes, but the thought of spending 4 hours to get the right water drop....I just don't have the patience for that.
However, i could almost say the same the other way around. I love landscapes, but the thought of spending 4 hours to get the right water drop....I just don't have the patience for that.
Comment by Father Ted posted on Artist or Photographer? at 19/10/2009 - 20:54
Good explanation Stefan..even I understand that
Sort of what I was getting at with Art or Photography, although not quite the same point ).
As for which...erm...I'll get back to you
Sort of what I was getting at with Art or Photography, although not quite the same point ).
As for which...erm...I'll get back to you
Comment by Father Ted posted on Content or Form at 19/10/2009 - 20:43
I'm glad this sparked discussion.
Can I say where I'm coming from with the question? ( I wanted to see some comments before I gave my angle ).
There was a conversation in work regarding one of the other guys. He takes a lot of photos like Amin. ie, he'll spend hours, setting up something as obscure as highlighter pens, then photographing them from various angles and with various lighting effects.
Then there are people like Simonkit with his stunning landscapes, over which he has no control, other than deciding how to place the camera and when to press the release. ( I know I've simplified that a little ).
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not here to denigrate landscapes, it's what I had in mind when I bought the camera, nor do I dislike the more abstract images, some I've seen leave me speechless. However, I do see them as two distinct forms of art / photography.
I hope I've put that across without causing insult to anyone , because that is certainly not my intention. ( or even without confusing things )
Can I say where I'm coming from with the question? ( I wanted to see some comments before I gave my angle ).
There was a conversation in work regarding one of the other guys. He takes a lot of photos like Amin. ie, he'll spend hours, setting up something as obscure as highlighter pens, then photographing them from various angles and with various lighting effects.
Then there are people like Simonkit with his stunning landscapes, over which he has no control, other than deciding how to place the camera and when to press the release. ( I know I've simplified that a little ).
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not here to denigrate landscapes, it's what I had in mind when I bought the camera, nor do I dislike the more abstract images, some I've seen leave me speechless. However, I do see them as two distinct forms of art / photography.
I hope I've put that across without causing insult to anyone , because that is certainly not my intention. ( or even without confusing things )
Comment by Father Ted posted on Artist or Photographer? at 19/10/2009 - 20:28
Joe S wrote:
Come on guys? The division between content and form is 1st year pensum in art history classes, rhetorics and so on.
I dropped art at age 14 when I took my options.Come on guys? The division between content and form is 1st year pensum in art history classes, rhetorics and so on.
Wasn't any good at it, I preferred physics.
So, I join the ranks of those who need an explanation
Comment by Father Ted posted on Content or Form at 19/10/2009 - 19:58
