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well I guess it does not collapse then. but it is still a nice lens and I think it will sell for Pentax. as some have stated there are still cheaper third party lenses and second hand for those that can't afford this one.
I think the 200 and 300 lenses could be supplemented with a decent wr teleconverter for the rest of us..lol!

Comment by Don posted on DA 560mm at 12/09/2012 - 22:49

Don
Algernon wrote:
Don wrote:
Algernon wrote:
I wasn't sure about the waterproofing, but it's confirmed
that it is. It doesn't collapse though.
Pentax did patent such a beast.. and there were photos of the prototype 560 that did appear to be collapsable... so do not rule it out yet..
It's shown here collapsed and the pics came from
the same forum that now says it doesn't collapse and it's
not shown collapsed on the latest photos?

ricehigh_link

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RH is a Pentax hater and IMHO an idiot... he was also posting everywhere that the k-5 mk II rumors were fakes.. anywho... the lens LOOKS like it collapses, and it probably does... Pentax is notorious for having less than useful press releases and marketing efforts lol! time will tell.

Comment by Don posted on DA 560mm at 12/09/2012 - 19:39

Don
Algernon wrote:
I wasn't sure about the waterproofing, but it's confirmed
that it is. It doesn't collapse though.
Pentax did patent such a beast.. and there were photos of the prototype 560 that did appear to be collapsable... so do not rule it out yet..

Comment by Don posted on DA 560mm at 12/09/2012 - 19:16

Don
Algernon wrote:
I didn't think it was waterproof and on the US forum
they said it didn't collapse like a telescope.
link

Comment by Don posted on DA 560mm at 12/09/2012 - 18:51

Don
jane7l wrote:
Don wrote:

are you comparing weather sealed lenses? Image stabilized?
seems to me this is not an indoor lens, and also collapses to a nice back packable size.... I think there would be many a shooter of different brands that might jump ship to pentax for a weather sealed camera and lens combo that truthfully would still ring in at less money than say this:
nikon 600
or this:
canon 500

I should think the Pentax is priced right, if the image quality is there..
sure a $3000.00 lens would have been amazing... but seven grand isn't a bad idea compared to the competition and market place..
you are comparing a stop faster lenses with newest is design to a very simple lens design with no stabilisation. one stop faster lens usually brings about doubled price. and if you go just another half stop slower, you get zoom sigmas at around 1k price tag. da560 better be damn good to justify the price. even if it drops to a half of it.
you're assuming simpler is simpler.. my understanding is a scramjet is simpler than a jet turbine... doesn't make it easier to design, easier to operate... but it is significantly faster in use...
seriously.. simplifying the design may in fact improve the image quality... and who cares about a stop lost at the lens stage when you're looking at the dynamic range, and better af of a k-5 mk II?
you gotta look at this as a camera lens package.... the combined system is a great value compared to the competition....

Comment by Don posted on DA 560mm at 12/09/2012 - 18:46

Don
Frogfish wrote:
Fletcher8 wrote:
Expensive it may be, but I am sure I remember reading a lot of people wanting Pentax to make a lens such as this one, and as Womble stated you can't win.

At least now there is the option to buy one if you have the money.
Sorry Fletch can't agree.

There was always the option to buy one if you have that sort of money. Pre-owned 250-600, 500, 600, 800 and even the 1,200mm all come up once or twice a year if you keep an eye open for them - and are superb lenses.

If Pentax had come out with a f4 / f4.5 design optically similar to those of Nikon/Canon's then you could foresee this price. However they specifically made a point of stating it is a much simpler design with fewer elements ... and it's f5.6, therefore optically simpler, lighter and much cheaper to produce.
are you comparing weather sealed lenses? Image stabilized?
seems to me this is not an indoor lens, and also collapses to a nice back packable size.... I think there would be many a shooter of different brands that might jump ship to pentax for a weather sealed camera and lens combo that truthfully would still ring in at less money than say this:
nikon 600
or this:
canon 500

I should think the Pentax is priced right, if the image quality is there..
sure a $3000.00 lens would have been amazing... but seven grand isn't a bad idea compared to the competition and market place..

Comment by Don posted on DA 560mm at 12/09/2012 - 18:09

Don
aliengrove wrote:
I'm glad that the K5 II is so similar to the K5- I don't need fast AF as most of my lenses are MF anyway, and I don't shoot video, so I don't feel any need to upgrade from my K5

If a FF model comes out, however, I will no doubt be spending some money once the price stabilises.
those sony camcorders I linked to in my previous post ARE the sensors that will be sold to nikon, the vg 30 sensor is the same as in the k-30, and the 24 mp ff will ultimately go to Pentax as well.. what is interesting is that the ff is being marketed by sony in the camcorder line as having better low light performance.... that tells me Pentax will have no choice but to make a FF camera with that sensor, but Pentax will have to either drop the sr or make a bigger body for the ff sensor.

Comment by Don posted on K-5 Mk II at 12/09/2012 - 15:39

Don
I mentioned some time ago that Pentax could bring back thier powerzoom lenses on a video centric evil cam... it seems Sony likes the idea they are now making power zoom lenses for thier camcorder line. these camcorders are using the same sensors as the slrs. it seems to me, that Pentax will eventually get the sensors.
when they do, I hope they make make a serious double hitter that shoots video and stills BOTH in a top pro class.
would be nice to see indie filmmakers shooting pentax!

link
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/08/sonyvgdsc07813.jpg

Comment by Don posted on K-5 Mk II at 12/09/2012 - 13:52

Don
fritzthedog wrote:
Don wrote:
that q adaptor has a leaf shutter built in.. that means flash sync at all shutter aperture combinations, right?
that could be quite useful...
I'm thinking a pentax 15 or 21 ltd with adaptor, on a q would work quite nice for flash fill outdoor portrait shoots....
Wont the 15 be the equivalent of 80mm on the Q?
doesn't that sound about right for outdoor portraits with flash?

Comment by Don posted on New products now on Pentax site at 11/09/2012 - 21:50

Don
that q adaptor has a leaf shutter built in.. that means flash sync at all shutter aperture combinations, right?
that could be quite useful...
I'm thinking a pentax 15 or 21 ltd with adaptor, on a q would work quite nice for flash fill outdoor portrait shoots....

Comment by Don posted on New products now on Pentax site at 11/09/2012 - 19:59

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