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Comment by ChrisA posted on help with raw at 13/01/2008 - 11:40
I suppose getting the timing circuitry accurate enough might be too difficult/expensive.
I'm just griping at the way they've implemented it - although if it would have been much more expensive to do it as I imagined they had, it probably wouldn't be worth it.
Comment by ChrisA posted on K10D failure with pop-up flash at 14/01/2008 - 11:20
I suppose getting the timing circuitry accurate enough might be too difficult/expensive.
Comment by ChrisA posted on K10D failure with pop-up flash at 14/01/2008 - 10:28
Are you suggesting that the final pre-flash from the camera takes place while the shutter is open?
I hope this isn't the case!
Sorry Chris, but that is the case. Both flashes fire at the same time in any wireless mode. When the onboard is used as a controller, it still fires, but at a reduced output.
Take a wireless shot in the mirror, that'll prove it to you, you'll see both flashes light up.
How crap is that!!!
Why on earth can't it know the timing of the external gun's reaction, and the length of time it takes to open the shutter, so that the final pre-flash can fire before the shutter opens?
Grrr...
I suppose getting the timing circuitry accurate enough might be too difficult/expensive.
I just thought that it would be able to know that (for instance) after the button is pressed all the way down, it would be x milliseconds to send the final preflash, so the shutter could open any time after that, to coincide with the main flash.
This would mean that the final preflash would have been all gone by the time the shutter was open.
Doing all this optically is a bit pants anyway, though - I bet it won't be the future.
Comment by ChrisA posted on K10D failure with pop-up flash at 14/01/2008 - 10:11
Are you suggesting that the final pre-flash from the camera takes place while the shutter is open?
I hope this isn't the case!
Sorry Chris, but that is the case. Both flashes fire at the same time in any wireless mode. When the onboard is used as a controller, it still fires, but at a reduced output.
Take a wireless shot in the mirror, that'll prove it to you, you'll see both flashes light up.
How crap is that!!!
Why on earth can't it know the timing of the external gun's reaction, and the length of time it takes to open the shutter, so that the final pre-flash can fire before the shutter opens?
Grrr...
Comment by ChrisA posted on K10D failure with pop-up flash at 14/01/2008 - 09:57
If the built-in is controller, then only the external flash fires.
I've hopefully clarified it a little with what I've added in bold below:
Then the shutter opens. Then...
If the built-in is master, then both it and the external flash fire after the shutter has opened
If the built-in is controller, then only the external flash fires after the shutter has opened.
In the latter case, I don't see how the camera-pre flashes can affect the exposure, since all they're doing is telling the external gun what to do.
I hope this isn't the case!
Comment by ChrisA posted on K10D failure with pop-up flash at 14/01/2008 - 09:19
However If you are taking a real closeup shot from say around 1-1.5ft I find it hard to believe that even firing the pop-up as the controller that it does not affect something in the shot, this is only my personal opinion which may differ greatly from the actual (more than likely).
- camera pre-flash triggers the external pre-flash
- camera does its metering based on the external pre-flash
- second camera pre-flash tells the external gun how much to emit
Then the shutter opens. Then...
If the built-in is master, then both it and the external flash fire.
If the built-in is controller, then only the external flash fires.
In the latter case, I don't see how the camera-pre flashes can affect the exposure, since all they're doing is telling the external gun what to do.
Comment by ChrisA posted on K10D failure with pop-up flash at 13/01/2008 - 13:24
That was just what I was going to try changing, when the flash system failed! It will be the first thing I try when I get my beloved K10D back.
As 'master', not only does the built-in contribute to the exposure, but it contributes a variable amount according to whether you dial in a compensation value or not.
Comment by ChrisA posted on K10D failure with pop-up flash at 13/01/2008 - 10:59
Wireless flash with the K10D is not wireless as such, it can be described as optical wireless, in other words the remote guns (your 360's) HAVE to see the flash from the popup, works fine if you have 360's, 540's (or equivelent Sigma, Metz), but I still think the popup contributes some unwanted light to the shot, especially in a confined enviroment (small studio, livingroom etc).
If it's the controller, I believe it does not contribute to the exposure.
Comment by ChrisA posted on K10D failure with pop-up flash at 13/01/2008 - 10:18
As far as I know, the AF assist beam will only come on when the flash is mounted on the hotshoe (or maybe when it's off camera with a cord - haven't got a cord to try that scenario).
It does work off camera with the 5P cable and the relevant bits on the ends (and indeed with the 5P cable plugged into the flashgun).
It does not work wirelessly, not surprisingly, since there would have to be all manner of control flashes going on, and these only take place after the shutter release button is fully pressed, not half-pressed which is what triggers the AF assist light (which precedes the actual focusing, obviously).
Comment by ChrisA posted on taking photos in the dark at 11/01/2008 - 14:38


You can think of Raw as being like a film negative and Jpeg as a film transparency.
You work from the raw file/negative and it is never altered but your 'print' is manipulated in whichever way you want.
A camera jpeg is a bit like a transparency in that there isn't much you can do with it.
Slightly blown highlights. If you have the jpg from the camera the highlights are blown already. If you have the RAW file you can recover quite a lot in SilkyPix. You then save the jpg from SP and the highlights are recovered.
There's no such thing as a "slightly blown highlight". There may be smaller or larger areas of the image where the highlights are blown, but a highlight is either blown, or it isn't.