buy one get one free would be a good offer, wouldn't mind having 2 Kx

If anyone has one for sale, otherwise if you have recommendation please advise!

thx

might as well just spend a few quid on the real fisheye adaptor!

I meant what do you use the picture you are showing for? (as you're saying it's usable), and then my other comment doesn't make any sense. So please ignore me, I'm tired.

interesting, quadrupling their market share, not their sales, which is as enthusiastic!

hoping they are improving their compacts as so far i haven't been very impressed! I own a W80 waterproof camera, which is fun and handy but the quality of the images is poor and often unusable.

good luck to them though!! (i'm convincing everyone I know to get a Kx!)

haha so what do you use it for?

photos are all useless anyway, arent they?

this is the best finding on my camera ever!

- i dont think panos work in the city, so it really depends what you want to use the wide angle for

- fisheye adaptor is a very cheap and fun way to get a wider angle, of course it's fisheye and if you zoom out to max you'll have the horrible black circle so the pictures will be unusable (apart from an avatar ), but otherwise it keeps the pictures very sharp!

since you have a very small budget i think it's a good idea, someone on the forum was selling one for less than 15 quid I think, good be a good option and if you dont like it go for something for serious like the 16-45

woohoo just gave it a go. Still haven't figured out how to use it properly (not sure if i need to change e-dial or p program in the menu), but i found a MAJOR improvement over the Av mode.

tested on my 10-20mm f4 - 5.6

setting my aperture to f5.6 at 10mm, which is one stop above
--> now when I zoom in to 20mm, the aperture becomes f8, which is one stop above

this is awesome because it means I can shoot at the sweet spot and not have to worry about zooming in or out as it will always pick one or two stops above (whichever i set it up on!).

now if I go to the Av mode, f4 at 10mm, zoom in to 20mm, the aperture becomes f5.6, then zoom out back to 10mm, the aperture stays at f5.6

So for me it's two major improvements (only for the lenses that don't have constant aperture):
- shooting at sweet spot all the time
- shooting at biggest aperture all the time

I believe I will always shoot in P mode now!?

hmm it doesnt sound very useful as it's the same as using Av and then check the shutter speed and adjust the Av if the shutter speed doesnt look right (which will be updated automatically).

Example: I shoot at f4 in Av mode, the camera tells me 1/20sec which i find too long, so i change to f2.8 and the camera will pick 1/60 sec or so (whatever one stop is?), keeping the same exposure?

If I want to shoot sport or do a long pose I use the Tv mode.

It seems it's just easier to swap between controling exposure, aperture or shutter, so in the end you might just look at all the parameters before taking your pic, which is more likely to be nicer i guess..?

Not convinced yet

Ok thanks - so in short the P mode is an enhanced Auto mode?

That's a bit disappointing...