No it's proven now... you're crazy, i'm so sorry for you *hugs*

If I was the camera and trying to figure out exposure I would also show the flash I'm in charge or else every time when someone press the button and I want to capture the shot the stupid flash goes off screwing up my carefully calculate exposure

So you should show me that you're in charge and use me in M mode as well!
If the shots then gets screwed up because the flash fired it's your fault

(Manual flash can only be used when camera is on M or X-sync)

Darren I believe Thoramay & I just prove that it can without spinning out of control since we just were rounding it up. Now it's a good time to praise us like hell instead of saying it can't be done

ps. One tip, never say you're going to leave Pentax because it isn't pro enough, you'll be slaughtered then

But we are glad to have you Darren *hug*

ps. ps. Don't say anything about Kangaroo's when Clarky is around... it involves a sleeping bag and don't ask me more

ps. ps. ps. Regardless that I'm Dutch I didn't use drugs while writing this, before you get any strange ideas

Glad you found the problem, slim filter would solve it.

Oh no you clone it out, just like dolly the sheep
Most software for photography has spot/dust removal tool you could use that and a cloning tool works the same.

Yeah had the same problem if I stacked two filters, but like your image i got it on all the corners and not just one, that's so strange about it

Shouldn't they be able to do that with some optics or will that darken the VF?

Stan thank you, it's a tough pill this one.
it need great skill to capture something that you see on a photo, it also bring me joy when I see I've captured it.

Thoramay, indeed the brain is an organ that's very hard to understand if we would ever completely understand it would be hard to say. It can be used for good but also for wrong, if it's there to help disorders then I'm fine with it but if we get so far that we can order a baby that's is as talented as Mozart then things have gone very wrong in my eyes.
But well that might take a long time and morals like you talk about would have change then since moral is taught to you by the people around you, I don't think it's instinct or anything else with what we are born with that tells us what's wrong a right.
A good example is the food we eat today, how many would find it sad to slaughter a chicken but are more then happy to go to the super market to get one

That's a really though we we already had a discussion about that once without a conclusion.

It can be all those things, it's the end result that counts I believe not the way through there defines if it makes it art or not.

Yes, it's what's on the picture that counts, the arrangement and use of objects in still life's is an example and the play with light.


For the ease of things I narrowed it down to something that's made by someone to be aestheticly pleasing.

I aint sure how close I got with this...

Another intersting question is do you need skill to create art?

Thoramay, I agree with what you said now in this way, it sounded differently first
Oh no it's great to see it from another view point, we travel very often from course here in this forum
But yeah lets cut it short here, my last comment on this since I'm interested in some of your views.

Hate is a complex emotion with a lot of variation the same with love but they have narrowed it down to some regions of the brain, you might find this wrong but it could help people with an disorder.
Besides that don't you believe that something like an antidepressant work?
Maybe you should try a joint once and tell me if it made you happy or not

Indeed gift in such a way as a talent comes down to genes in the first stages and stimulation and development of that talent and maybe something else, who knows
But can't you be good in something without having talent for it?

I wonder if those artist needed to express themselves or if it was simply a way to make a living?

Please stop with the crop factor thing, if Whelmed has only use an APS-C camera then a crop factor wouldn't mean a thing for him only complicating things.
And burden, what burden?
An 400mm f/4 is certainly lighter then a 600mm f/4

So Whelmed if you find photography hard enough already and never used an 135 camera then forget what those two guys above me said about crop factor, just forget it since you don't need it then. It makes photography a lot simpler

Ah yes Mike, you're right ^^
From what I read out of the EXIF data from the K10D (bad) photos the focus seem to be on infinite so yes it didn't catch focus.

Maybe it's time to say farewell to the 17-70 you've now, it does not seem to be a good copy since your other shots are stunning!