Nor am I

Especially if they have something to moan about

Might be because when using normal flash you have the ability to use slow sync mode, first curtain flash/second curtain flash in which case SR is quite handy as you could use quite low Shutter Speeds in to acquire certain effects.

On a particular day when I had plenty of time on my hands I decided to carry out a few experiments with regard to shake reduction left on or off while on a tripod and I actually did not find any difference in the image quality. Even at macro level.

Having said that you are actually absolutely right, that all manufacturers advise on turning off SR or whatever they are called by other makes while on tripod, but I am wondering if that is probably more to do with saving battery than really deterioration of IQ. I might be wrong though so as a rule I do turn it off while on tripod, when I remember it.

What prompted me to carry out the experiment was because on many occasions I found myself shooting while on a tripod with the SR on, just because I had forgotten to turn it off. But otherwise I always turn it off. I am sure this might happen with other members too, having used the camera with SR on and suddenly putting it on a tripod and forgetting to turn it off, or vice versa which could be more damaging to the IQ.

How about just pure simple straightforward curiosity and interest as reason for wanting to understand "why the head of the nail is bigger than the shaft or how the point of the nail focuses the energy..."

I don't know about others but I personally cement better any knowledge when I understand the workings of it. That's how I managed to improve my photography and also thanks to the patience and good will of many members here who put up with so many silly questions often that I would come up with.

But hey, I could well be wrong, after all I am just a learner and on a steep learning curve with regard to photography

Thanks Ken, all well around here. still settling down with the other make , but getting there slowly. So how are the goldies? You still getting swamps of them in your backyard? Those niger seeds you advised me to put have really done the trick over here , looking for some more this winter.

Why do I feel that I have hijacked this thread by the way? I swear that wasn't my intention , sorry PaulGee, but its nice to say hello back to the old familiar faces saying hello

I couldn't have put it better ChrisA. This is precisely what I was trying to imply . Glad some of you see it this way too.
Yup I agree, silly thread

I did end up with a stash of G20s a couple of months after the 12-24mm deal through a different contact of mine and might I say a better and more honest one with whom it was a pleasure to deal with, but I sold it by word of mouth amongst acquaintances and friends. Didn't want to risk raising another havoc in the forum and then dealing with silly comments such as some that we can see even on this thread.
I have given away things for free at times, others I have made profit and on a rare occasion made even a killing like in the case of my DA* lenses and the Pentax 1.7x TC and I honestly do not see where is the problem with this. As long as deals are conducted with honesty and seller and buyer are aware of what they are getting involved in why should it raise eyebrows with other members?

Thanks Tony, I always lurk around . Its a nice place to be

Goodness me, it has been a while I participated here and what a surprise suddenly out of the blue reading the thread I notice my name and that's when suddenly it dawned to me that jimmoore most probably was refering to me.

This is really silly, quite honestly besides the grief and arguments I had to deal with when that episode happened with the Samsung 12-24mm lenses, I stashed a lot of money in them and ended up making about £20 profit on each lens this still haunts me. Gosh there seems to be quite a few unhappy people who just cannot let it go. When I did it I honestly did out of the sense of community I felt here and still feel in fact, hence the reason I still lurk around. I do have very strong bonds here, more than in any other forums even though I have stopped using Pentax more than a year ago.

I was in a position to get a good deal and benefit some fellow members during that episode and I happily did it. I have done similar things for other forum members here also like helping them close a good deal, or driving around London and checking a lens for them and purchasing with my own cash and then posting it to them and all that just out of my good will and because I consider members here as a friendly bunch and deal with me as part of a close community. But heck comments like those just blow it all up.

Even if someone makes money out of a good deal I don't see where is the problem with it. Are we going to tell Chris not to buy things in bulk and sell us at a profit?

By the way George and TonyM thanks for your kind words, its very much appreciated. This is the reason why although not a pentaxian anymore I still lurk here, there is a nice sense of community here even though once in a while an episode like this crops up that leaves a bitter taste in my mouth