Just watched it. Quite well done I even liked the
"flat" telephoto shots

Good film you pointed out in the other thread Ken about
William Kleine, but he pointed out that the telephoto
shots in Rome were "FLAT" Are you going to write
into the Beeb and complain that he's been getting the
definition wrong for the past 50 years.... Ha! Ha!

Also point out that he didn't need to go in so close
into peoples faces with a 35/50mm he could have stood
accross the road with a 135/200mm and got the same shots

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This is the ultimate flat picture....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Hogarth-satire-on-false-pespe...

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Your right Don.... her nose looks very flat!

My only concern is that the left shot is your
standard portrait lens

And if you compress something.... What does it become?????

Err!!!......... FLAT

http://fineartamerica.com/art/paintings/flat+perspective/all

"Conceptual perspective. Paintings which use conceptual perspective often look very flat, this technique can sometimes look like the perspective has gone wrong but it is simply another way of looking at the world around us."
http://www.museumnetworkuk.org/landscapes/text/textthemes/textperspective.htm

"Viewing Distortions. However, a perfect perspective drawing or optically flat photograph reproduces three dimensional space on the viewer's retina only when we view it with a single eye, located at the center of projection and looking along the correct direction of view implied by the perspective geometry."


"The American photographer Ansel Adams had a superb eye for perspective facts in visual design. His photograph of an arid landscape contains not one straight edge anywhere, and confronts the world head on, making the landscape appear flat. Yet the sense of depth in space is powerful and pervasive."

http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/perspect1.html#fourfacts

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Flat in photography refers more than anything to low contrast
prints. It probably has a dozen uses.

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If you don't want to mislead people don't refer to long
lenses as telephoto lenses unless they contain a telephoto
group! Ha! Ha!

And an 8X telephoto or a 8X pair of binoculars should
be a Div by 4 telephoto or a Div by 4 pair of binoculars

And a Magnifying Glass should be called a Dividing Glass

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I picked Pentax because German Cameras are the Best!

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The telephoto actually magnifies/enlarges the image, which is the opposite
of compression, so using the word compression would be misleading. The view is also becoming more and more 2D which is also called flat. It's also the opposite of depth in photographic terms.

It's amazing that in only a few years of flat monitors people seem to have forgotten what proper photography is It was the 35mm and 50mm lenses on Leica cameras that made the likes of the Magnum photographers famous. Their photographs were great because they had great depth to them. They didn't stand safely 50m away with 135/200mm lenses, they moved right in for the impact shots. There was a massive interest in the wide angle 24/28mm shots that appeared in publications like the Sunday Times Colour Supplement. Now it seems people can't tell the difference between a shot that has depth and one that is flat
Something that even non-photographers could see in the 70's

I hope someone isn't now going to start a thread asking what depth in
a photograph is.

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I've got a license that allows me to ride a carrot
through a field of motorbikes whenever I want!

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