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SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 Versus f/1.7

Supplementary article comparing bokeh and sharpness between two popular vintage versions of the M Series 50mm from Pentax.

Posted: 23/10/2024 - 17:53

With the latest manual focus lens review, we looked at the SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 lens and had the opportunity to attempt to compare the bokeh with that of the SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/1.7 lens already looked at. The "received wisdom" is deeply seated and tells us that the f/1.4 version is contrastier, grittier and more suited to reportage but at the expense of detailed resolution. The f/1.7 version is pictorially more pleasant but loses out on absolute speed.

This of course is fine as far as it goes, but it applies to a world where the use was on film, and even then mainly in black and white so far as the amateur photographer was concerned. Now we have mainly colour, we have digital and we also have a term "bokeh" that is delightfully vague and usually described in colourful and exotic phrasology that reflects its lack of scientific precision.

Read the full reviews:

In our lens reviews we define bokeh as being the quality of the gradation of the out of focus areas in an image. This usually means the background and when the bokeh is good it makes an unobtrusive but smooth backdrop to, say, a portrait of perhaps a person or perhaps a flower. Highlights will be rendered smoothly with no doughnut effects or ragged edges, the current fashion being for rounded aperture blades rather than sharp edged hexagons.

The Results

Having decided then that our experiment is not totally objective or scientific, we can nonetheless see what we have, draw conclusions and see if the bokeh of the two lenses is pleasing to ourselves or not. To this end Rick has introduced a slider for the images and we can seamlessly move from the f/1.4 to the f/1.7 to see how the effect changes at each aperture. The 8-bladed diaphragm of the f/1.4 clearly gives a more rounded highlight than the 6-bladed f/1.7 but that is a matter of taste, not a technical measurement.

For all the comparison frames the left side is the SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/1.4 and the right side the SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/1.7

f/1.4 versus f/1.7 (wide open)


Aperture at f/2


Aperture at f/2.8


Aperture at f/4


Aperture at f/5.6


Aperture at f/8


Aperture at f/11


MTF Chart


So which do we prefer? Frankly, on digital it is a moot point as the effects are different rather than better or worse, but after very careful examination then probably it still holds that the f/1.7 lens has the most attractive out of focus effects. As always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.

John Riley

My specialised interest in Pentax started from the first moment I looked through the viewfinder of my first Spotmatic, the SP1000. That gorgeous clarity, sharply defined within a pure black frame is my definitive way to view the world and make images. Pentax is a superb example of a range of manufactured tools that is both the path to creativity and also a gem of engineering elegance and excellence in its own right.

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kasperbergholt
Posted 24/10/2024 - 13:46 Link
Hi John,


I ordered a 50mm 1.2 yesterday and came across this post and analysis shortly afterwards.

An interesting to read, the slider is a great way to illustrate the differences.

I was surprised by the difference in saturation—I expected the color representation to be more similar.

How do you think the SMC Pentax-A 50mm 1.2 compares to the 1.7 and 1.4?

I like the tonality of the 1.7 the best, but I’m guessing there will be quite a difference between using it on a K1 versus my current go-to camera, the K10D?

And thanks again for opening up this world of older lenses, coming from the 77mm 1.8 and 35mm 2.8 macro limited ones.


All the best,

Kasper
-- Kasper Bergholt
johnriley
Posted 24/10/2024 - 21:01 Link
It was an interesting exercise to do, but the possibilities for comparisons like this are endless, there are not enough hours in the day! There may be a difference between the K1 and K10D, but we don't know for sure without experimenting. That's part of the problem with modern testing - the "film" (sensor) we use varies over the years, so the results really need constantly repeating. If we did use a standard film, at one time in black and white that would be Kodak Technical Pan (ISO 16) and it would be the same for all lenses tested. There are modules available that test lenses digitally without needing a sensor but that is way outside what is affordable to use.

Have fun with the f/1.2!
Best regards, John
kasperbergholt
Posted 26/10/2024 - 18:39 Link
johnriley wrote:
It was an interesting exercise to do, but the possibilities for comparisons like this are endless, there are not enough hours in the day! There may be a difference between the K1 and K10D, but we don't know for sure without experimenting. That's part of the problem with modern testing - the "film" (sensor) we use varies over the years, so the results really need constantly repeating. If we did use a standard film, at one time in black and white that would be Kodak Technical Pan (ISO 16) and it would be the same for all lenses tested. There are modules available that test lenses digitally without needing a sensor but that is way outside what is affordable to use.
Have fun with the f/1.2!

Thank you for the explanations

Perhaps I can scoop up a 1.4 & 1.7 somewhere down the road and do some comparisons with the 1.2.

Will keep you posted - and thanks again for sharing all these valuable & inspirational insights.
-- Kasper Bergholt
Monobod
Posted 07/11/2024 - 00:37 Link
Hello John, I have the Pentax SMC A 50mm f/1.7 and use it on my K-3 Prestige. Is this autofocus lens different to the M version? I have used it on my K-1, but that has been sold now. I really love the clarity and image sharpness of this lens. I am considering using it with an adaptor on my Fuji X-T5 too. Thanks.
johnriley
Posted 07/11/2024 - 10:37 Link
Both the A lens and the M lens are manual focus. The difference is that the A lens has electronic contacts so the exposure system will work fully with modern DSLR cameras. The M lens will have to be used via manual settings - the M series articles have the full details of the procedure for this.
Best regards, John
Monobod
Posted 07/11/2024 - 11:44 Link
Hello John, my apologies, my mistake. The lens is the smc FA 50mm f/1.7.
johnriley
Posted 07/11/2024 - 11:59 Link
The FA lens is the AF version and will be the same optically as the A and the M. The 50mm design was pretty thoroughly worked out and stable by this time.
Best regards, John
Monobod
Posted 07/11/2024 - 12:07 Link
Hello John, thanks for your prompt reply. It is such a superb lens and after all these years is performing well. Also quite small and light to carry.

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