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Sorry...It's me again! While GB runs away from Europe...an Italian enters into England through PUG!!!AhAhAh...I'm joking!
I'm not able to solve this matter so I need your help. Do you prefer the whole compo(no colour)..or square crop (blu marked) or rectangular crop (red marked)? A different file from previous upload but same camera, same BW film,same place and same date. Different process in Topaz: Platinum Collection-Type VIII....a little bit tweaking with curves (medium contrast) and blu filter for same reasons of previous capture. Thanks for help...If you want to throw me rotten tomatoes...No problem...I'm here
31/03/2017 - 17:53GIULIO57
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pauljay

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 18:22
Personally, I prefer the complete photo as I feel that the building and its surroundings need the space around it to make the whole situation obvious! Watch out! Incoming tomato!
Paul.

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Mag07

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 18:37
Lol Giulio! As for the pic, I'd actually leave the whole thing as is. But then I am weird. It somehow gives the scene a context. Of nothingness, nevertheless; a context.
'Photography...it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten....' (Aaron Siskind)

davidstorm

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 18:43
I would probably go for the square crop, but the whole image is also very good.

Regards
David
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go4IT

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 19:45
davidstorm wrote:
I would probably go for the square crop, but the whole image is also very good.

Regards
David

In agreement with David.

All the best
Go4IT

GIULIO57

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 19:51
pauljay wrote:
Personally, I prefer the complete photo as I feel that the building and its surroundings need the space around it to make the whole situation obvious! Watch out! Incoming tomato!

THX Paul.....Right word: obvious...This is my dilemma (conundrum)
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GIULIO57

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 19:53
Mag07 wrote:
Lol Giulio! As for the pic, I'd actually leave the whole thing as is. But then I am weird. It somehow gives the scene a context. Of nothingness, nevertheless; a context.

Right again: obvious and context Dilemma increases
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GIULIO57

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 19:59
davidstorm wrote:
I would probably go for the square crop, but the whole image is also very good.

Regards
David

Problem of my picture is the central position of the castle that "unbalance"everything. Square crop works for sure but deletes a part of the context, IMHO. This is the central point of dilemma. In the whole compo the central position of castle makes the whole compo as the work of a clever boy It misses of originality...to correct this feature is useful a square crop.....and we come back to the origin of dilemma....This is the first time I am in such a "blind alley"
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Last Edited by GIULIO57 on 31/03/2017 - 20:01

GIULIO57

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 20:00
go4IT wrote:
davidstorm wrote:
I would probably go for the square crop, but the whole image is also very good.

Regards
David

In agreement with David.

All the best
Go4IT

2 square Vs 2 whole compo
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DrOrloff

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 21:07
Original ratio cropped in somwhat from top right.
You can see some of my photos here if you are so inclined

Nigelk

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 22:10
Out of your given options I would vote for the whole picture. However if it where mine I would probably experiment with taking a little from the top and somewhere between the red and blue lines on the right hand side, which I think is broadly in line with DrOrloff.

autumnlight

Link Posted 31/03/2017 - 23:03
Giulio i hope you don't mind, i took the liberty of taking your photo off and removing the coloured lines but keeping your crops, my opinion is the square crop works so much better compositionally and no tomatoes will be thrown
Kind regards Maria

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tommyt

Link Posted 01/04/2017 - 00:35
Giulio I like it as it is uncropped and taking anything away will remove some of the atmosphere that works so well in the picture. That is just my opinion and that doesn't mean any of the others are wrong and that is also why we all love photography and see things differently..

GIULIO57

Link Posted 01/04/2017 - 05:15
DrOrloff wrote:
Original ratio cropped in somwhat from top right.

Thx for your opinion.
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GIULIO57

Link Posted 01/04/2017 - 05:16
Nigelk wrote:
Out of your given options I would vote for the whole picture. However if it where mine I would probably experiment with taking a little from the top and somewhere between the red and blue lines on the right hand side, which I think is broadly in line with DrOrloff.

...Thanks so much and whole compo is the most choosen option...till now
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GIULIO57

Link Posted 01/04/2017 - 05:18
autumnlight wrote:
Giulio i hope you don't mind, i took the liberty of taking your photo off and removing the coloured lines but keeping your crops, my opinion is the square crop works so much better compositionally and no tomatoes will be thrown

THanks Maria I do really appreciate your words...knowing your art works and your skills I do appreciate twice
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Last Edited by GIULIO57 on 01/04/2017 - 05:23

GIULIO57

Link Posted 01/04/2017 - 05:20
tommyt wrote:
Giulio I like it as it is uncropped and taking anything away will remove some of the atmosphere that works so well in the picture. That is just my opinion and that doesn't mean any of the others are wrong and that is also why we all love photography and see things differently..

Thanks Tom
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PeterKR

Link Posted 01/04/2017 - 10:02
I think you've done the 'triple whammy' there Giulio ?

They ALL work in different ways, and as pictures to hang it will depend upon what overall shape suits the location best.
I might even suggest further cropping the top of the red crop to make a wide Panoramic image ?

As they say 'when you've got it, flaunt it !'

Best regards
Peter

GIULIO57

Link Posted 01/04/2017 - 10:36
PeterKR wrote:
I think you've done the 'triple whammy' there Giulio ?

They ALL work in different ways, and as pictures to hang it will depend upon what overall shape suits the location best.
I might even suggest further cropping the top of the red crop to make a wide Panoramic image ?

As they say 'when you've got it, flaunt it !'

Best regards
Peter

Thanks for both your suggestion and saying (In italian we do have a similar saying). The pano version is an xtremely original idea. Very creative.
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graysummers

Link Posted 05/04/2017 - 08:20
I'm a firm believer in that you take what you want in that very moment you push the shutter button. A collection of thoughts and intrinsic feelings tells you, "this is what I believe is right". The latent image sits and patiently waits for the magical process of development. Then, on seeing the result, it shouts out to you "Hey! You captured me just perfectly ". The whole frame please.
"The Latent Image that exists before development is a truly mystical and exciting entity and some subsequent individual photographs can make the spine tingle."

Good Fortune:

Gray Summers. Website www.graysummers.com

GIULIO57

Link Posted 05/04/2017 - 19:43
graysummers wrote:
I'm a firm believer in that you take what you want in that very moment you push the shutter button. A collection of thoughts and intrinsic feelings tells you, "this is what I believe is right". The latent image sits and patiently waits for the magical process of development. Then, on seeing the result, it shouts out to you "Hey! You captured me just perfectly ". The whole frame please.

THX Gray and welcome back Right words yours! Tigers, Lions, Snakes and the whole magical Nature Kingdome use your "saying"....Only humans loose their chances using "brain"....Freud was used to state that neurosis are due to the loss of all contacts with Nature around us and in taking our brain as first chice to live.Sorry for my simple words. In Italy we do have a similar sayng as your: First "impression"(impact) is the right one....but...but after all above brain tells...Did you forget my opinion?....So I uploaded that photo with marked crops....Brain has been very important for Evolution but is it really important as we are used to believe?Perhaps it is so.....but...but...The other choice is that we have two brains: Emotional and Artistic against Rational. Rational is a criminal in front of the artistic side of what live around us....or Is Rational brain a criminal...???This could be another option....due to brain...My reply is endless as well the choice between whole frame and cropped ones. However after reading all replies I'm going towards whole frame....Anyway THANK you for comment and sorry for my Epic Reply
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graysummers

Link Posted 05/04/2017 - 19:53
Well thought out epic reply.....so very interesting reading. I agree with your words. Good fortune.
"The Latent Image that exists before development is a truly mystical and exciting entity and some subsequent individual photographs can make the spine tingle."

Good Fortune:

Gray Summers. Website www.graysummers.com

nocturnal

Link Posted 13/04/2017 - 01:08
The red crop is best, by far the best, minimalist without the bottom left distraction!!!

Ansel would tell you the same

Liked! 😉
"In a photographic context I don't like the use of the word 'shot' as where I live this word refers to an extreme act of violence and not the beautiful craft of photography"

alfpics

Link Posted 13/04/2017 - 14:16
DrOrloff wrote:
Original ratio cropped in somwhat from top right.

This would be my take - the bottom left of image really helps give context to the image
Andy

GIULIO57

Link Posted 13/04/2017 - 18:32
nocturnal wrote:
The red crop is best, by far the best, minimalist without the bottom left distraction!!!

Ansel would tell you the same

Liked! 😉

THX for your help
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GIULIO57

Link Posted 13/04/2017 - 18:33
alfpics wrote:
DrOrloff wrote:
Original ratio cropped in somwhat from top right.

This would be my take - the bottom left of image really helps give context to the image

THX so much
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nonur

Link Posted 20/04/2017 - 08:03
The blue crop for me please, Giulio.
Regards,
Nezih

GIULIO57

Link Posted 21/04/2017 - 10:16
nonur wrote:
The blue crop for me please, Giulio.

THX Nezih
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pixelshot

Link Posted 30/06/2017 - 16:53
I prefer the whole crop although the blue is nice for me BUT THE WHOLE CROP WINS ! ;O))

GIULIO57

Link Posted 02/07/2017 - 17:07
pixelshot wrote:
I prefer the whole crop although the blue is nice for me BUT THE WHOLE CROP WINS ! ;O))

THX for your comment
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