Flooded
by SMarsden
Can I please have your feedback on this image? I'm keen to know what any of you DO NOT like about it, and what you would do differently for a similar scene.
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Uploaded15/09/2015 - 18:26
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Posted 15/09/2015 - 19:30
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GIULIO57 wrote:
This photo and place remind me of similar places in suburbs where strange peoples live, take drugs,eat....I would like to add where a lot of "refugees"are obliged to live if they have no helps. So you have described a modern problem of our Europe without using "these refugees or repudie"I would like to say. Reading your compo through these strange ideas I could say that your photo is a perfect sinthesys of above troubles.....What is missing?..A "refugee"...Another key to read your compo is to look at this place as an abandoned area that could be used in a different way(I imagine that a lot of asbestos cement live here! So you have taken an image of a dangerous modern building. In this case category should be: architecture. In the former example(refugees) category could be: conceptual. I cannot eply to your question because I don't know what you have seen at first when in front of this "pool". In front of such scenes I always think about "mankind and its degeneration".....I should have taken this photo using a low POV enhacing leaves in foreground because they are dead as "all living...well dying in this frame"....You have taken a picture of "death"....only green and trees are alive.....My words will be judged too eccentric exotic. Perhaps a "mystical"reading of that place but the colour helps me to say that this "reading"is almost"scientific" because use elements of compo only! A real mystical work needs BW, IMHO.......Last but not least I should have preferred a BW. Be and sorry for my dissertation
Thank you for taking the time... This photo and place remind me of similar places in suburbs where strange peoples live, take drugs,eat....I would like to add where a lot of "refugees"are obliged to live if they have no helps. So you have described a modern problem of our Europe without using "these refugees or repudie"I would like to say. Reading your compo through these strange ideas I could say that your photo is a perfect sinthesys of above troubles.....What is missing?..A "refugee"...Another key to read your compo is to look at this place as an abandoned area that could be used in a different way(I imagine that a lot of asbestos cement live here! So you have taken an image of a dangerous modern building. In this case category should be: architecture. In the former example(refugees) category could be: conceptual. I cannot eply to your question because I don't know what you have seen at first when in front of this "pool". In front of such scenes I always think about "mankind and its degeneration".....I should have taken this photo using a low POV enhacing leaves in foreground because they are dead as "all living...well dying in this frame"....You have taken a picture of "death"....only green and trees are alive.....My words will be judged too eccentric exotic. Perhaps a "mystical"reading of that place but the colour helps me to say that this "reading"is almost"scientific" because use elements of compo only! A real mystical work needs BW, IMHO.......Last but not least I should have preferred a BW. Be and sorry for my dissertation
Perhaps a B&W like this...
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Posted 15/09/2015 - 19:32
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SMarsden wrote:
Perhaps a B&W like this...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/simarsden/21444842045
YES...like that perfect BW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GIULIO57 wrote:
This photo and place remind me of similar places in suburbs where strange peoples live, take drugs,eat....I would like to add where a lot of "refugees"are obliged to live if they have no helps. So you have described a modern problem of our Europe without using "these refugees or repudie"I would like to say. Reading your compo through these strange ideas I could say that your photo is a perfect sinthesys of above troubles.....What is missing?..A "refugee"...Another key to read your compo is to look at this place as an abandoned area that could be used in a different way(I imagine that a lot of asbestos cement live here! So you have taken an image of a dangerous modern building. In this case category should be: architecture. In the former example(refugees) category could be: conceptual. I cannot eply to your question because I don't know what you have seen at first when in front of this "pool". In front of such scenes I always think about "mankind and its degeneration".....I should have taken this photo using a low POV enhacing leaves in foreground because they are dead as "all living...well dying in this frame"....You have taken a picture of "death"....only green and trees are alive.....My words will be judged too eccentric exotic. Perhaps a "mystical"reading of that place but the colour helps me to say that this "reading"is almost"scientific" because use elements of compo only! A real mystical work needs BW, IMHO.......Last but not least I should have preferred a BW. Be and sorry for my dissertation
Thank you for taking the time... This photo and place remind me of similar places in suburbs where strange peoples live, take drugs,eat....I would like to add where a lot of "refugees"are obliged to live if they have no helps. So you have described a modern problem of our Europe without using "these refugees or repudie"I would like to say. Reading your compo through these strange ideas I could say that your photo is a perfect sinthesys of above troubles.....What is missing?..A "refugee"...Another key to read your compo is to look at this place as an abandoned area that could be used in a different way(I imagine that a lot of asbestos cement live here! So you have taken an image of a dangerous modern building. In this case category should be: architecture. In the former example(refugees) category could be: conceptual. I cannot eply to your question because I don't know what you have seen at first when in front of this "pool". In front of such scenes I always think about "mankind and its degeneration".....I should have taken this photo using a low POV enhacing leaves in foreground because they are dead as "all living...well dying in this frame"....You have taken a picture of "death"....only green and trees are alive.....My words will be judged too eccentric exotic. Perhaps a "mystical"reading of that place but the colour helps me to say that this "reading"is almost"scientific" because use elements of compo only! A real mystical work needs BW, IMHO.......Last but not least I should have preferred a BW. Be and sorry for my dissertation
Perhaps a B&W like this...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/simarsden/21444842045
Posted 15/09/2015 - 20:14
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Interesting. I'm usually drawn to monochrome conversions, but I like the colour contrasts here. It's a bit confused visually but this is not your fault.
Hard to know what I'd do... probably allow a little more room at the top as the composition is a bit tight.
Giulio makes some very interesting points.
Hard to know what I'd do... probably allow a little more room at the top as the composition is a bit tight.
Giulio makes some very interesting points.
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Andrew
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Andrew
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Posted 16/09/2015 - 01:22
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The B&W one has something the other doesn't - a focal point. Both make one wonder what the heck it might be but the colour view has nothing to call attention. Giulio points this up perhaps by attempting to read a story into it and wanting a "refugee" in frame to support that story. Also you may have missed a vertical composition that makes use of the two tree trunks in front of the main opening and their reflections in the water. It's a place that generates questions by the dozen. The photos have to suggest (or even state) those questions.
That said, I like it.
That said, I like it.
Posted 16/09/2015 - 07:32
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davidwozhere wrote:
The B&W one has something the other doesn't - a focal point. Both make one wonder what the heck it might be but the colour view has nothing to call attention. Giulio points this up perhaps by attempting to read a story into it and wanting a "refugee" in frame to support that story. Also you may have missed a vertical composition that makes use of the two tree trunks in front of the main opening and their reflections in the water. It's a place that generates questions by the dozen. The photos have to suggest (or even state) those questions.
That said, I like it.
I do like your comment
The B&W one has something the other doesn't - a focal point. Both make one wonder what the heck it might be but the colour view has nothing to call attention. Giulio points this up perhaps by attempting to read a story into it and wanting a "refugee" in frame to support that story. Also you may have missed a vertical composition that makes use of the two tree trunks in front of the main opening and their reflections in the water. It's a place that generates questions by the dozen. The photos have to suggest (or even state) those questions.
That said, I like it.
Posted 16/09/2015 - 17:31
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I do like this shot, love to have a go at a different kind of editing, but maybe not as it might spoil what you have already achieved!
Posted 16/09/2015 - 18:03
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davidwozhere wrote:
The B&W one has something the other doesn't - a focal point. Both make one wonder what the heck it might be but the colour view has nothing to call attention. Giulio points this up perhaps by attempting to read a story into it and wanting a "refugee" in frame to support that story. Also you may have missed a vertical composition that makes use of the two tree trunks in front of the main opening and their reflections in the water. It's a place that generates questions by the dozen. The photos have to suggest (or even state) those questions.
That said, I like it.
Nice!!
The B&W one has something the other doesn't - a focal point. Both make one wonder what the heck it might be but the colour view has nothing to call attention. Giulio points this up perhaps by attempting to read a story into it and wanting a "refugee" in frame to support that story. Also you may have missed a vertical composition that makes use of the two tree trunks in front of the main opening and their reflections in the water. It's a place that generates questions by the dozen. The photos have to suggest (or even state) those questions.
That said, I like it.
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Posted 16/09/2015 - 18:03
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Thank you guys
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Posted 16/09/2015 - 21:51
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Sorry Stewart, but there is not a lot I don't like about this. Giulio has said most of it already, the only slight negative I can give is that it looks a little 'busy' to my eye and I would probably have toned down the exposure a little as I like rich tones.
I like the way it leads the eye and I like the unusual subject. Maybe if I visited this location I could give more constructive feedback, but as it stands it is a good image.
Regards
David
I like the way it leads the eye and I like the unusual subject. Maybe if I visited this location I could give more constructive feedback, but as it stands it is a good image.
Regards
David
Posted 19/09/2015 - 00:19
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I must say that I absolutely love the photo as is! I don't know the history of the place and have never seen it in person so I am judging it on it's photo merit.
What I like is the composition, color contrasts and movement of this photo.
The black dirt with the orange leaves is an ingenious mind play for me as it looks like the right bottom corner of the photo starts out in B & W with splashes of individually colored orange leaves, and the black and orange together are a great knock out blast of contrast. The photo then gently feathers into color.
As the photo moves on it goes from foreground focus to mid-ground watercolor-like blur, due to the reflection, and then back to focus in the background, another mind twister.
All this nature has a stabilizing man made stone structure in the background that angles in from the left corner that starts out strong and then fades into the foliage taking your eye with it. The building reflection rolls your eyes right back to the ' semi-cirlce shore of black with orange', which in turn loops you back in the direction of the building.
Added bonuses are the floating window frame(?) and the graffiti which convey abandonment.
The stuff composing this photo took me on a creative curiosity jaunt!
What I like is the composition, color contrasts and movement of this photo.
The black dirt with the orange leaves is an ingenious mind play for me as it looks like the right bottom corner of the photo starts out in B & W with splashes of individually colored orange leaves, and the black and orange together are a great knock out blast of contrast. The photo then gently feathers into color.
As the photo moves on it goes from foreground focus to mid-ground watercolor-like blur, due to the reflection, and then back to focus in the background, another mind twister.
All this nature has a stabilizing man made stone structure in the background that angles in from the left corner that starts out strong and then fades into the foliage taking your eye with it. The building reflection rolls your eyes right back to the ' semi-cirlce shore of black with orange', which in turn loops you back in the direction of the building.
Added bonuses are the floating window frame(?) and the graffiti which convey abandonment.
The stuff composing this photo took me on a creative curiosity jaunt!
Cheers...Donna 😊
Posted 19/09/2015 - 17:52
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davidstorm wrote:
Sorry Stewart, but there is not a lot I don't like about this. Giulio has said most of it already, the only slight negative I can give is that it looks a little 'busy' to my eye and I would probably have toned down the exposure a little as I like rich tones.
I like the way it leads the eye and I like the unusual subject. Maybe if I visited this location I could give more constructive feedback, but as it stands it is a good image.
Regards
David
Thanks Buddy
Sorry Stewart, but there is not a lot I don't like about this. Giulio has said most of it already, the only slight negative I can give is that it looks a little 'busy' to my eye and I would probably have toned down the exposure a little as I like rich tones.
I like the way it leads the eye and I like the unusual subject. Maybe if I visited this location I could give more constructive feedback, but as it stands it is a good image.
Regards
David
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Posted 19/09/2015 - 17:53
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Wildwood512 wrote:
I must say that I absolutely love the photo as is! I don't know the history of the place and have never seen it in person so I am judging it on it's photo merit.
What I like is the composition, color contrasts and movement of this photo.
The black dirt with the orange leaves is an ingenious mind play for me as it looks like the right bottom corner of the photo starts out in B & W with splashes of individually colored orange leaves, and the black and orange together are a great knock out blast of contrast. The photo then gently feathers into color.
As the photo moves on it goes from foreground focus to mid-ground watercolor-like blur, due to the reflection, and then back to focus in the background, another mind twister.
All this nature has a stabilizing man made stone structure in the background that angles in from the left corner that starts out strong and then fades into the foliage taking your eye with it. The building reflection rolls your eyes right back to the ' semi-cirlce shore of black with orange', which in turn loops you back in the direction of the building.
Added bonuses are the floating window frame(?) and the graffiti which convey abandonment.
The stuff composing this photo took me on a creative curiosity jaunt!
Thank you
I must say that I absolutely love the photo as is! I don't know the history of the place and have never seen it in person so I am judging it on it's photo merit.
What I like is the composition, color contrasts and movement of this photo.
The black dirt with the orange leaves is an ingenious mind play for me as it looks like the right bottom corner of the photo starts out in B & W with splashes of individually colored orange leaves, and the black and orange together are a great knock out blast of contrast. The photo then gently feathers into color.
As the photo moves on it goes from foreground focus to mid-ground watercolor-like blur, due to the reflection, and then back to focus in the background, another mind twister.
All this nature has a stabilizing man made stone structure in the background that angles in from the left corner that starts out strong and then fades into the foliage taking your eye with it. The building reflection rolls your eyes right back to the ' semi-cirlce shore of black with orange', which in turn loops you back in the direction of the building.
Added bonuses are the floating window frame(?) and the graffiti which convey abandonment.
The stuff composing this photo took me on a creative curiosity jaunt!
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Posted 23/09/2015 - 18:18
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The only negative thing I can say is that I can't really determine what I am looking at! The mono shot offers more clarity, and I prefer it, but still the primary subject goes undetermined. So Stewart, please put me out of my misery!
Paul.
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Posted 23/09/2015 - 18:20
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pauljay wrote:
The only negative thing I can say is that I can't really determine what I am looking at! The mono shot offers more clarity, and I prefer it, but still the primary subject goes undetermined. So Stewart, please put me out of my misery!
North Weald Mobilisation Centre; known locally as North Weald Redoubt; was the first of 15 mobilisation centers to be built between 1889 and 1903, It was also the only fortified Mobilisation Centre north of the Thames. Part of the London Defence Positions its main function was as a store for guns, small arms ammunition as well as being used as barrack accommodation
The only negative thing I can say is that I can't really determine what I am looking at! The mono shot offers more clarity, and I prefer it, but still the primary subject goes undetermined. So Stewart, please put me out of my misery!
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