Yet another thread shut down with no reason given.


Mannesty

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 11:35
Surely if people want to discuss an issue, they should be allowed to do so as long as the discussion remains civil.

Whatever happened to a little democracy around here?

If a topic is going to be closed, the members surely have a right to know why, irrespective of the standard get out, "We don't discuss moderation decisions in public".

I for one am not after a discussion, just a rational explanation other than "Topic closed". All that was needed was a mod. to have the courtesy to add another post to the thread before closure, explaining the decision. Is that too much to ask?
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Last Edited by Mannesty on 20/11/2011 - 11:39

Algernon

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 11:48
Possibly some posts were deleted from that thread and then
the thread closed.
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ChrisA

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 11:56
Mannesty wrote:
All that was needed was a mod. to have the courtesy to add another post to the thread before closure, explaining the decision. Is that too much to ask?

I agree.

Even within the constraints of "we don't discuss moderation decisions", it would seem less arbitrary and capricious to at least give a reason, even if no further discussion was entered into.

They don't have to, but it would be nice if they did.

As far as

Mannesty wrote:
Whatever happened to a little democracy around here?

goes, there is none. It goes with the territory - we're here as guests, not by right.
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Last Edited by ChrisA on 20/11/2011 - 11:58

johnriley

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 12:43
Constant sniping does not help anyone, the thread was goig round in circles and the same points being reiterated over again. This does no-one any favours, so go back and read it and you'll see why it was eventually closed.

It's time we stopped wasting time talking inwardly about how things are decided and went back to a healthy discussion about photography.

There is no need to be overly sensitive. You could have just asked by PM and it could be clarified, you don't need to start it off all over again.
Best regards, John

johnriley

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 12:49
I have now added an explanation to the thread in question.
Best regards, John

Still27

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 13:12
I would be much more likly to leave because of the Whingeing than the moderating, and if I was leaving because I didn't like it here I would just leave.
Bill
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davidtrout

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 13:48
Still27 wrote:
I would be much more likly to leave because of the Whingeing than the moderating, and if I was leaving because I didn't like it here I would just leave.

I totally agree with that Bill.
David
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Mike-P

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 13:52
johnriley wrote:
I have now added an explanation to the thread in question.

Even I could see it was just going round in circles but it would have been nice if the explanation had been posted as the thread was locked.

Just common courtesy to the posters taking part I would have thought.
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Mannesty

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 13:53
Still27 wrote:
I would be much more likly to leave because of the Whingeing than the moderating, and if I was leaving because I didn't like it here I would just leave.

Some of us have been here a very long time Bill, and can remember the days when it was a more pleasant experience to be here.

I'd like those days to return.

If we don't openly discuss the points we dislike, they'll never get resolved, especially using the private messaging system.
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Mannesty

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 13:53
johnriley wrote:
I have now added an explanation to the thread in question.

Excellent. That's a good start.
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ChrisA

Link Posted 20/11/2011 - 13:58
davidtrout wrote:
Still27 wrote:
I would be much more likly to leave because of the Whingeing than the moderating, and if I was leaving because I didn't like it here I would just leave.

I totally agree with that Bill.

But notice, chaps... you've now also felt strongly enough about an aspect of the culture here (rather than the photographic content), to take the trouble to express an opinion.
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Eastridge

Link Posted 21/11/2011 - 09:45
The only thing I would wish to say is that if the moderator gives an explaination we can ALL ( not just those so wound up that they will spend time on a PM) learn from that so that we know what sort of things are likely to be closed / locked in future.

You shouldn't put your kid on the 'naughty step' without telling them why they are there.

So, please explain to eductate us and that should reduce the need to take similar actions in the future.
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Still27

Link Posted 22/11/2011 - 09:15
Eastridge wrote:
The only thing I would wish to say is that if the moderator gives an explaination we can ALL ( not just those so wound up that they will spend time on a PM) learn from that so that we know what sort of things are likely to be closed / locked in future.

You shouldn't put your kid on the 'naughty step' without telling them why they are there.

So, please explain to eductate us and that should reduce the need to take similar actions in the future.

I must agree that would save some aggravation.
Bill
K5+Bigma+BushHawk Shoulderpod.
K5+16-50DA* + 10-17DA Fisheye + 50-135DA* + Sigma 70mm Macro + DA35 2.4..
Slik Pro 700DX tripod.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixellie/

japers45

Link Posted 22/11/2011 - 14:08
I would like to offer my support to the moderators on this one.

The thread in question was becoming very much a repeat of earlier discussion that has it seems has been covered the world over.

I think it is obvious why it was locked and IMO this was the correct action. I think the title of the thread is a little mischevious.

PU isnt a democracy- that just wouldnt be feasible. The mods have a judgement call to make and on the whole do a good job.

Now where did I put my camera?

ChrisR

Link Posted 22/11/2011 - 15:18
japers45 wrote:
I would like to offer my support to the moderators on this one.

The thread in question was becoming very much a repeat of earlier discussion that has it seems has been covered the world over.

I think it is obvious why it was locked and IMO this was the correct action. I think the title of the thread is a little mischevious.

PU isnt a democracy- that just wouldnt be feasible. The mods have a judgement call to make and on the whole do a good job.

Now where did I put my camera?

Plus one.

Take care.
Chris R.

I. El. (Eng). (Rtd).
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