why pentax is better?

Anvh
Posted 03/05/2010 - 13:58 Link
mecrox wrote:
I'm a little puzzled as to how Pentax can justify this price premium. I know folks will say that Pentax is backwards-compatible with lots of inexpensive but very good lenses from yesteryear, but selling to the "old guard" isn't going to keep Pentax in business. In fact it's a dead end. Pentax needs a Man with a Plan about going forwards and it is quite hard to see one.
It's quite simple like Pentaxophile already said it 3 of the 5 lenses you named from Pentax are made out of aluminium and you've 2 macro lenses with Pentax and with Nikon only one

As for full frame... full frame of what?
I think Pentax would no go into the 135film size market, because the market is quite small in that range and Nikon and Canon are dominating and Sony is struggling to get some food on ground there.
Stefan
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K10D, K5
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mecrox
Posted 03/05/2010 - 17:37 Link
Anvh wrote:


As for full frame... full frame of what?
I think Pentax would no go into the 135film size market, because the market is quite small in that range and Nikon and Canon are dominating and Sony is struggling to get some food on ground there.
Actually, if you substitute the 40mm or FA 35mm instead of the DA 35mm macro, the comparison is pretty well the same, so your point really comes down to superior construction on some but far from all lenses.

Actually, it's possible to expand the comparison and go for "money no object" in which case we have something like

Pentax 12-24mm, 31mm, 43mm, 77mm, 100mm macro + k7 = 4644.99
Nikon 12-24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 105mm macro + D300s = 4107.99

At that level, personally I would definitely choose Pentax but further down the scale I am not so sure. It's further down the scale, of course, where most of us live.
Edited by mecrox: 03/05/2010 - 17:38
johnriley
Posted 03/05/2010 - 18:13 Link
Prices are so variable across the suppliers at the moment that I think you'de need to give a bit more detail, but to be honest value is not only price.

There are many other things such as backup, quality, reliability, handling, etc. that contribute to the overall value to the buyer. Just buying on price means cheapest is best, but we know that isn't true.
Best regards, John
Anvh
Posted 03/05/2010 - 18:26 Link
mecrox wrote:
so your point really comes down to superior construction on some but far from all lenses.
3 out of 5 lenses you named where limited lenses though

The Pentax DA12-24 is just gone up with the recent price hike in the UK that it's just silly to get one for that money if you ask me

If you want to make a comparative lens group you should get a normal zoom, tele zoom and a 50mm prime and a 100mm macro, that's what most people will buy i believe.

All prices from SRS.

DA 17-70mm F4 (couldn't find the 16-45 on SRS) £479
Nikon 16-85mm F3.5-5.6G AF-S DX VR £429

DA 55-300mm f4.0-5.8 £279
Nikon 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G AF-S VR £415

DFA 100mm f2.8 Macro £519
Nikon 105mm F2.8G AF-S VR Micro £599

FA 50mm f1.4 £319
AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 £299

Pentax total £1596
Nikon total £1742

ps. I just see how good of a value the DA55-300 is compared to Nikon, that's where the differences is.
Anyone know why the Nikon 70-300 is so expensive?
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Edited by Anvh: 03/05/2010 - 18:30
Pentaxophile
Posted 03/05/2010 - 19:22 Link
mecrox wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="Anvh"]. It's further down the scale, of course, where most of us live.
I live quite a bit further down the scale!

Zenitar 16mm f2.8 / Sigma SuperwideII 24mm / SMC-M 28 f3.5 / SMC-M 50 f1.7 / SMC-M 135 f3.5

£244!
Posted 07/05/2010 - 09:12 Link
Hi, Ive had Pentax from the 35mm film days to my K-m all my old film lenses fit and work fine (ok so no autofocus and manual exposure only) but that adds to the experience, there's something about pentax - they just feel right
Anvh
Posted 07/05/2010 - 17:52 Link
mercer1965 wrote:
Hi, Ive had Pentax from the 35mm film days to my K-m all my old film lenses fit and work fine (ok so no autofocus and manual exposure only) but that adds to the experience, there's something about pentax - they just feel right
Depends on the lens, FA lenses work fully on Pentax DSLR and F & A lenses also works very well, only the lenses without auto aperture are a bit harder to use.
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ

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