Why 1.7 ?

JPC1970
Posted 02/05/2009 - 15:54 Link
Just wondering if anyone knows why the largest aperture on the M 50mm f1.7 is f1.7 ?

I could understand f1.8 as it is in the 1.4,1.8,2.8,4 etc scale.

I presume that you could have a lens with any maximum aperture that doesn't have to have a conform to the above scale but why not have made it f1.8 ?

Jason
K30 & 18-55mm WR.
Edited by JPC1970: 02/05/2009 - 16:23
johnriley
Posted 02/05/2009 - 16:20 Link
Because f1.7 sounds better or because it became possible with a lens redesign to get just a little more speed from the typical 6 element standard lens.

Someone managed a f1.6 50mm lens, I think it might have been Fuji.
Best regards, John
mowog
Posted 02/05/2009 - 17:30 Link
It was a marketing ploy. Pentax thought some people would be more likely to buy a camera with an f1.7 standard lens rather than one with the more usual f1.8, like an OM1 or an FE, AE1, etc.

Edit:
The same thing goes on today, with pixel count. Camera manufacturers compete to stuff ever more pixels onto their sensors because they know that the average Joe Punter equates more with better. We camera W**kers though, know that pixel count, on it's own, means bugger all.
No man is worth his salt, who has not been banned from at least one Forum, and two Flickr groups.

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Edited by mowog: 02/05/2009 - 18:49
justjas
Posted 11/06/2009 - 16:04 Link
The lens aperture can be anything that you can actually design to.

The larger the maximum aperture the brighter the picture you get in your viewfinder and the more critical is the focusing of the lens due to the reduced DoF.

The probability is that f1.7 was more favourable for the actual lens computation, when came down to it.
jas
HowardJ
Posted 11/06/2009 - 16:16 Link
Aren't the values approximate square roots

1.4 - 2
1.7 - 3
2 - 4
2.8 - 8
4 - 16

etc.::

and isn't something to do the area of the aperture - hence the square roots.

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Howard
Cymru Am Byth
MattMatic
Posted 11/06/2009 - 16:30 Link
Quote:
Aren't the values approximate square roots
Indeed they are

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number

f/1.7 sits on the half a stop scale, while f/1.8 sits on the third a stop scale

Matt
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Edited by MattMatic: 11/06/2009 - 16:30
Father Ted
Posted 11/06/2009 - 16:33 Link
You're a clever bunch you lot
Getting there! Thanks to you guys

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davex
Posted 11/06/2009 - 16:55 Link
Quote:
You're a clever bunch you lot
Think i`m in the wrong forum,
I though a square root was a carrot gone wrong

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