White Tigers - The Full Set
Posted 27/01/2012 - 21:47
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A great sequence of shots. For me number 7 is the most magical. The composition is perfect in terms of how much both tigers occupy the frame at right angles yet looking straight at the camera. Great stuff.
Posted 28/01/2012 - 08:07
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Great stuff, aren't you lucky being close to these wonderful beasts!
C&C welcome.
Don.
Don.
Posted 28/01/2012 - 08:29
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Very impressive animals, well photographed and presented.
Best regards
Best regards
Too far from a shore.
Posted 28/01/2012 - 10:18
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Thank you Bob - I too love #7 and will have that printed large !
Cheers Don. I am indeed. I didn't realise just how lucky until I did a little research on them when I got home (I hadn't seen the white Winter coat on any tigers prior to this shoot and wanted to know more about this breed, the incredibly endangered and extinct in the wild - but recovering with reintroduction planned - South China Tiger. link
Thanks K10D - they are marvellous animals aren't they.
Thank you for commenting guys n gals !
Cheers Don. I am indeed. I didn't realise just how lucky until I did a little research on them when I got home (I hadn't seen the white Winter coat on any tigers prior to this shoot and wanted to know more about this breed, the incredibly endangered and extinct in the wild - but recovering with reintroduction planned - South China Tiger. link
Thanks K10D - they are marvellous animals aren't they.
Thank you for commenting guys n gals !
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Posted 28/01/2012 - 10:53
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Lovely set, I really like #7 too.
While I fully understand your reasons for the copyright stuff on the images, it does detract from them a great deal imo, especially on these images where it's almost the same colour as the tigers.
While I fully understand your reasons for the copyright stuff on the images, it does detract from them a great deal imo, especially on these images where it's almost the same colour as the tigers.
Posted 28/01/2012 - 13:09
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All decent images, but none really grab me. Except for seven which is truly outstanding. The horizontal and vertical elements work perfectly and the detail and sharpness is impressive. I think you're right to write your name all over it.
Posted 28/01/2012 - 13:54
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I am sorry to say that these pictures have brought on another case of critical hyperbole, an affliction which blights this forum from time to time.
Yes, the pictures are technically OK (focus and exposure are generally fine, and colour is commendably restrained), but it is the subject matter that makes them interesting, not the compositions or the use of light.
Exactly the same pictures, but of dogs or cats, rather than white tigers, would not have elicited the same effusions.
These pictures are competently-made and attractive, but the words "magical" and "outstanding" are, in my view, somewhat over the top.
I agree with others that No 7 is the best.
G
Yes, the pictures are technically OK (focus and exposure are generally fine, and colour is commendably restrained), but it is the subject matter that makes them interesting, not the compositions or the use of light.
Exactly the same pictures, but of dogs or cats, rather than white tigers, would not have elicited the same effusions.
These pictures are competently-made and attractive, but the words "magical" and "outstanding" are, in my view, somewhat over the top.
I agree with others that No 7 is the best.
G
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Posted 28/01/2012 - 14:10
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I'm not going to comment on the things other people have said previously - they're entitled to state their opinion however they see fit!
Shot 7 is by far the best shot - the eye contact and moment of tenderness captured is indeed almost magical If I had one criticism, it would be that the bright areas on the reclining tiger's pelt are very bright and almost burnt out, and it would have been better to expose for these areas and then lift the exposure on the standing tiger in PP.
The other shots are OK but lack the special qualities of shot 7 which make it a definite keeper... IMHO.
Shot 7 is by far the best shot - the eye contact and moment of tenderness captured is indeed almost magical If I had one criticism, it would be that the bright areas on the reclining tiger's pelt are very bright and almost burnt out, and it would have been better to expose for these areas and then lift the exposure on the standing tiger in PP.
The other shots are OK but lack the special qualities of shot 7 which make it a definite keeper... IMHO.
Posted 28/01/2012 - 15:39
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I have looked at flickr, 500pix and 1x and I didn't find a better white tigers portrait than 7. The perfect eye contact and the natural look of this shot I would imagine are remarkably difficult to achieve. To what extent does the subject matter, well hugely. Of course. I would definitely tone down the highlights a bit and I'd clone out what looks like a potato at the bottom. But I stand by my outstanding, because that is exactly what it is amongst its peers.
Is that the DA*300?
Is that the DA*300?
Posted 28/01/2012 - 16:13
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DrOrloff wrote:
But I stand by my outstanding, because that is exactly what it is amongst its peers.
You make my point. It is (in your view) outstanding in the context of the photos of white tigers that you have seen in a short trawl of the internet.But I stand by my outstanding, because that is exactly what it is amongst its peers.
You didn't make that important qualification initially.
Incidentally, I like the shot. I just like to retain a sense of values.
G
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Posted 28/01/2012 - 16:32
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Well firstly thank you to everyone for this debate and the really nice comments. They are truly appreciated.
I do agree with most though that technically they are nothing more than competent and certainly not exceptional, I was indeed posting these for the subject matter which I thought might interest people since they are indeed very rare.
When any of us go on a shoot we often plan to do something specific and then hope to hell that the weather / circumstances / subject co-operates. I have been to Shanghai Zoo maybe 10 times in the past two years because entry is cheap, £5, there are lots of fields, canals and wooded areas without exhibits (good for wildlife and birds) and there are certain subjects I hope will one day give me a shot or two that I would print and hang at home. As photographers we take a lot of shots, most we throw away, some have passing interest and once in a while we take a shot that will always be of interest, if not to anyone else, to ourselves or a particular group of people.
On the day in question I got one of those shots (#7) though of course with zoo shots (and many others) there is always an element of luck involved, of being in the right place at the right time. I walk pass this pen every time I visit the zoo, hoping that there might be some activity (there rarely is !) and so I was ready for something to happen if it did (DA*300 on a monopod on one K5 and a Sigma 50-150 on the other - both with settings at the ready).
As soon as I arrived I saw that the tiger had been in the water, I missed that , and soon after started walking towards the second tiger. I was excited and ready, in the position where I know from previous visits that I get an unimpeded view, for some interaction. I was lucky, the 'greeting' was lovely and gave me a shot I'll treasure !
Sorry AG, I know you're right but I'm afraid I no longer put up shots on-line without a heavy dose of Copyright (especially if the subject matter is 'timeless') that inevitably detracts from them. After all these forums are just for fun but having your photos stolen isn't (since many of my shots are of Shanghai, it's people, and otherwise somewhat 'scarce' subject matter - the World Expo for example) and I do plan to put my portfolio on-line and recuperate some of my expenditure to enable me to continue to buy high quality lenses and cameras so I have to take precautions.
I do agree with most though that technically they are nothing more than competent and certainly not exceptional, I was indeed posting these for the subject matter which I thought might interest people since they are indeed very rare.
When any of us go on a shoot we often plan to do something specific and then hope to hell that the weather / circumstances / subject co-operates. I have been to Shanghai Zoo maybe 10 times in the past two years because entry is cheap, £5, there are lots of fields, canals and wooded areas without exhibits (good for wildlife and birds) and there are certain subjects I hope will one day give me a shot or two that I would print and hang at home. As photographers we take a lot of shots, most we throw away, some have passing interest and once in a while we take a shot that will always be of interest, if not to anyone else, to ourselves or a particular group of people.
On the day in question I got one of those shots (#7) though of course with zoo shots (and many others) there is always an element of luck involved, of being in the right place at the right time. I walk pass this pen every time I visit the zoo, hoping that there might be some activity (there rarely is !) and so I was ready for something to happen if it did (DA*300 on a monopod on one K5 and a Sigma 50-150 on the other - both with settings at the ready).
As soon as I arrived I saw that the tiger had been in the water, I missed that , and soon after started walking towards the second tiger. I was excited and ready, in the position where I know from previous visits that I get an unimpeded view, for some interaction. I was lucky, the 'greeting' was lovely and gave me a shot I'll treasure !
Sorry AG, I know you're right but I'm afraid I no longer put up shots on-line without a heavy dose of Copyright (especially if the subject matter is 'timeless') that inevitably detracts from them. After all these forums are just for fun but having your photos stolen isn't (since many of my shots are of Shanghai, it's people, and otherwise somewhat 'scarce' subject matter - the World Expo for example) and I do plan to put my portfolio on-line and recuperate some of my expenditure to enable me to continue to buy high quality lenses and cameras so I have to take precautions.
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