which to get next?


Lancer3397

Link Posted 06/10/2013 - 20:32
on a budget, would like to upgrade in near future from the K30 DSLR I have.

with the K3 coming soon, this will of course influence prices. in an ideal world I would also like to have two bodies.

at airshows I get tired with lens swapping. one idea is to get another DSLR body to have my 18-55 on while my main body mounts the 50-500 body for the main shooting.

another idea is to have a pentax Q on hand for closer stuff when I need to and only have one DSLR.

I was always under the impression that the K30 sensor was the same as the K5 so it was essentially K5 lite.

would getting a K5 get me an improvement on the K30 in any way, or do I really need to upgrade to a K5IIs or down the road a K3 for an improvement?
Pentax K3, DA 18-55 WR, Sigma 50-500 EX DG HSM, Pentax M-50, a bucket load of SD cards, some lights and a lightbox

Pentaxophile

Link Posted 06/10/2013 - 20:35
I'm a K30 owner too. In your position I'd get another K30, just to maintain the same button layout etc. Heresy I know, but I prefer the K30 handling to the old K7/K5. And yes I did used to own one (K7).
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Lancer3397

Link Posted 06/10/2013 - 20:46
having another k30 makes sense, but that are a number of cheap k5's starting to appear on ebay and elsewhere so maybe a K5 makes a good buy as the K30 commands good second hand prices still.

I just seem to remember that the K5 has more features than the K30 although they run the same sensor, so I would benefit slightly but still be confident of good shots like I have now.

K5II better sensor and faster AF?
K5IIs no idea

one thing I do miss from the Kx I used to have was pressing the green button and having it take a shot and showing me a histogram without actually saving a shot. took a lot of good shots that way by getting to meter before taking a shot.
Pentax K3, DA 18-55 WR, Sigma 50-500 EX DG HSM, Pentax M-50, a bucket load of SD cards, some lights and a lightbox

Smeggypants

Link Posted 06/10/2013 - 20:48
have identical bodies. I tried using 2 different on a shoot and it don't work. You forget which body you're using and fumble
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

jules

Link Posted 06/10/2013 - 20:49
K30: 12 bit, Safox IXi+ (video sensor, from Nex series)
K5: 14 bit, Safox IX+
On balance for a two body set up, like you want, another K30.
One body, very likely a K3...

K5II Series seem more accurate again but no faster, at least not to me but maybe a bit surer? (All my lenses are SDM, So I doubt it would drive them any quicker anyway!)

Agree with Smeggy, you want two as similar as you can...
Cheers Jules...
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Last Edited by jules on 06/10/2013 - 20:59

Pentaxophile

Link Posted 06/10/2013 - 23:02
jules wrote:
K30: 12 bit, Safox IXi+ (video sensor, from Nex series)


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Last Edited by Pentaxophile on 06/10/2013 - 23:03

screwdriver

Link Posted 06/10/2013 - 23:27
Smeggypants wrote:
have identical bodies. I tried using 2 different on a shoot and it don't work. You forget which body you're using and fumble

So true.
Chris

jules

Link Posted 07/10/2013 - 05:32
Pentaxophile wrote:
jules wrote:
K30: 12 bit, Safox IXi+ (video sensor, from Nex series)



Cheers Jules...
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Pentaxophile

Link Posted 07/10/2013 - 09:19
How do you mean the sensor is from the NEX series? I was under the impression it was essentially the same sensor as the K5ii. In fact I thought all these 16MP sensors from Sony were pretty much the same, the main difference being the imaging engine they are hooked up to in the camera.
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Last Edited by Pentaxophile on 07/10/2013 - 09:30

jules

Link Posted 07/10/2013 - 09:39
Yep!
The whole shebang comes pretty much as a unit out of the Nex 5n, obviously there is some Pentax snake oil involved too but they got the Sensor and the twelve bit milbeaut image engine in a oner...
Designed from the up for video, live view, peaking etc.
There is at least four versions of this sensor/image pipeline, two 14Bit and two 12Bit and two different 16Mp sensors...

I'd guess that the same electronics aren't always available for more than a year (Everyone updates!), and some of the changes may be forced by what's now available on the market.
Cheers Jules...
tri-elmar-fudd

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Last Edited by jules on 07/10/2013 - 09:48

johnriley

Link Posted 07/10/2013 - 09:50
Many cameras use the same basic sensor units. Some use the same basic lens units.
Best regards, John

cabstar

Link Posted 07/10/2013 - 10:07
Pentaxophile wrote:
I'm a K30 owner too. In your position I'd get another K30, just to maintain the same button layout etc. Heresy I know, but I prefer the K30 handling to the old K7/K5. And yes I did used to own one (K7).

And the same batteries, chargers etc....
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