Which Pentax DSLR
Posted 17/08/2014 - 20:32 - Helpful Comment
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For the budget you have I would be tempted to go for a second hand K-5IIs in mint condition, you have enough to buy one of these and a decent lens. There's one for sale on this Forum at present, I think it's £465.
If you are looking only for a new DSLR, then your suggestion is probably a good one.
Regards
David
If you are looking only for a new DSLR, then your suggestion is probably a good one.
Regards
David
Posted 18/08/2014 - 00:27 - Helpful Comment
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I'd be interested to hear other users views on this, but it's been my experience that Pentax isn't particularly well suited to this type of subject matter. I don't believe Pentax has any genuine predictive tracking autofocus abilities, short of the advertising blurb for the new K-3?
I have a K-30 and tend to use the spot focus permanently, which locks the focus point when half pressed, until either released or the shot is taken. There is an AF-C constant focus setting but this tends to focus on a set timer, searching every once in a while when you clearly move to point at something that's not in focus presently.
By contrast other brands I'm aware of actively track a subject over time, much like Pentax does with the face focus ability on live view. I just thought I'd mention this. I guess it depends on how docile your new puppy is!
Setting a fast shutter speed, with an aperture of around say f8, will ensure you stop movement an are likely to be in the focus region most often. You might need to bump up the ISO to achieve this, depending on the lighting conditions at the time.
I have a K-30 and tend to use the spot focus permanently, which locks the focus point when half pressed, until either released or the shot is taken. There is an AF-C constant focus setting but this tends to focus on a set timer, searching every once in a while when you clearly move to point at something that's not in focus presently.
By contrast other brands I'm aware of actively track a subject over time, much like Pentax does with the face focus ability on live view. I just thought I'd mention this. I guess it depends on how docile your new puppy is!
Setting a fast shutter speed, with an aperture of around say f8, will ensure you stop movement an are likely to be in the focus region most often. You might need to bump up the ISO to achieve this, depending on the lighting conditions at the time.
Posted 18/08/2014 - 13:22 - Helpful Comment
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I don't think recent Pentax models will have too much trouble, based on my experience with the K7 ( now a design over 5 years old). I wouldn't worry too much about particular af tracking systems ...just set af.c (continuous), hi-speed burst mode and keep shutter speeds up around at least 500th - 1000th second and I believe you will get plenty of good in focus shots. Keep a bit of space around the subject to allow for cropping to make better compositions. Shoot bursts keeping the subject in the frame, maybe 10-15 shots in a burst, then pause and take a new position and go again. Sure, you might throw away half of the shots, but that doesn't matter - its the other half that count.
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Posted 18/08/2014 - 23:52 - Helpful Comment
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That sounds like an absolute bargain David. Is there any reason that it would not cope with autofocussing and 'tracking' a lively puppy using the af.c mode and burst shooting? I suppose the chosen lens will have some impact on it as well. My only af lens is the screw-drive 18-55, and as I've always said I've been very happy with the continuos af performance from the k7. Would it be fair to say that a wider aperture lens with SDM focussing would likely perform even better ?
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Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Posted 19/08/2014 - 00:00 - Helpful Comment
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I'm not sure that SDM focussing would perform better and the 18-55 lens that comes bundled with the camera is screw-drive anyway.
I have noticed that my K-3 is a snappy focusser, noticeably quicker than other DSLR's I've owned, more so with some lenses than others. It has a more powerful screw drive motor which makes a real difference, not sure if the K50 shares this trait. With SDM the focussing speed is more dependent on the lens; the camera helps especially in low light if the camera's AF is particularly sensitive (which it is on the K-3), but the SDM motor in the lens and the focus throw of the lens are the deciding factors.
Regards
David
I have noticed that my K-3 is a snappy focusser, noticeably quicker than other DSLR's I've owned, more so with some lenses than others. It has a more powerful screw drive motor which makes a real difference, not sure if the K50 shares this trait. With SDM the focussing speed is more dependent on the lens; the camera helps especially in low light if the camera's AF is particularly sensitive (which it is on the K-3), but the SDM motor in the lens and the focus throw of the lens are the deciding factors.
Regards
David
Posted 19/08/2014 - 07:42
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Thanks for the replies I'm probably going to go for the k50 as the k5 ii is out of budget less I can pick a 18-135 up at a reasonable price but best I have seen is £325.
Would the k5 be better than the k50 as I've seen k5 for around £265.
Would the k5 be better than the k50 as I've seen k5 for around £265.
Posted 21/08/2014 - 21:16
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Right payday tomorrow and can't decide between a k50 or a k5ii. If I went k5ii I would have to get either an 18-55 or 35 2.4 then buy the 18-135 later on. Or I can go k50 and get the 18-135.
Any advice guys is the k5ii worth the extra money compared to the k50?
Any advice guys is the k5ii worth the extra money compared to the k50?
Posted 21/08/2014 - 21:56 - Helpful Comment
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It is if you need the extra durability and features. I'd compare them on the Ricoh website for a start, then it's down to personal choice.
Best regards, John
Posted 22/08/2014 - 08:00 - Helpful Comment
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The K7/K5/ii series of cameras are built with a demanding, dynamic shooting style in mind. I mean strong for the outdoors and with quick access controls to key photographic features for the photographer who shoots in a dynamic way, responding quickly to changing light, subject motion, focussing needs and more. Not sure about the K50, but I have recently been enjoying the (rather high end) wireless flash feature on my camera with the 540fgz flashgun, an amazing feature. Video is reportedly better on the K5/ii with the sensor shake reduction option, rather than the newer 'movie shake' software solution on the k50.
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Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Posted 22/08/2014 - 13:45
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Thunderbird010 wrote:
Thanks for the replies I'm probably going to go for the k50 as the k5 ii is out of budget less I can pick a 18-135 up at a reasonable price but best I have seen is £325.
Would the k5 be better than the k50 as I've seen k5 for around £265.
The K50/K5ii is likely to be with you for two or three years before you want to swap it for something newer, that 18-135 lens should essentially be good for ever. So I would always say get the glass you want and the body you can be happy with rather than the other way around.Thanks for the replies I'm probably going to go for the k50 as the k5 ii is out of budget less I can pick a 18-135 up at a reasonable price but best I have seen is £325.
Would the k5 be better than the k50 as I've seen k5 for around £265.
And the K50 is a very nice camera anyway
Posted 22/08/2014 - 22:39
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Basically any of the cameras mentioned would do as they are all excellent - it's just getting one for the right price. Like most members I do recommend the 18-135 - very useful!
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I've just joined the forum as I'm looking to go back to purchasing a dslr. Basically I've had nikon dslrs so before but sold as I moved to micro 4/3.
I now have a puppy so want to back to a dslr and I have a budget of around £600 . I've been looking and I'm thinking of a k50 with the 18-135 to start off with. I don't specialise in anything really so would be using for fast action (dog) and portraits of my son but my panasonic gm1 and olympus 45mm tend to cover this.
Anymore feedback would be welcome.
Andy