Which flash?

andyvarney
Posted 10/02/2010 - 11:27 Link
I am considering getting a flash unit for general use and looking at the offerings at SRS the Pentax models seem a lot more expensive than the Metz and Sigma.

What are the advantages of going for an oem flash unit?

Andy
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Edited by andyvarney: 10/02/2010 - 11:27
MarkD
Posted 10/02/2010 - 13:26 Link
No real advantage in going for an OEM flash. They are usually much more expensive than equivalent 3rd party flashes. ( They are rarely made by the company name on the flash either!)
The only "advantage" is that the names match, and they will do what it says on the tin.
IMHO Metz are hard to beat.
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Edited by MarkD: 10/02/2010 - 13:26
Anvh
Posted 10/02/2010 - 14:34 Link
One of the most important thing is compatibility.
Since Metz, Sigma or any other manufacture has not bought the rights to make Pentax flashes I don't think Pentax will make sure their flashes will work with new bodies. Although how much can there change right.
Metz is clever to give them an USB port so you can just update them with new firmware, Sigma you need to send in just like their lenses most likely, if there is need for it.

On a personal note, I like the controls better on the Pentax flashes but that's something you need to find out for yourself.
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bretti_kivi
Posted 10/02/2010 - 14:39 Link
huh? It's P-TTL. How much interest has any manufacturer got in ensuring that there is an an eco-system of accessories?

That should answer any and all questions.

It's a flash. A flash has a centre pin which triggers it. Make sure it's flexible enough to vary power and it doesn't matter what happens with P-TTL. I've nearly bought Nikon and Canon fit Sigmas in the past - I use them off cam mostly so who cares what P-TTL does? I certainly don't and I don't like the measurements anyway (they tend to be wrong for me..). Manual FTW.

For me? Overpriced "OEM" kit is not worth it unless it has something very special you wouldn't get otherwise (like the Canon commander capabilities from the 580). That's the only good reason I can think of to buy OEM. And even then - how much are you *really* going to use it?

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Edited by bretti_kivi: 10/02/2010 - 14:41
Anvh
Posted 10/02/2010 - 15:45 Link
Yes Bret I should have said I was talking about P-TTL it use a digital contact that talks to the camera so there might be some problems if pentax decide to do that slightly differently, that's one of the reasons some sigma lenses need to be re-flashed to work properly on some bodies.
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PG
Posted 10/02/2010 - 19:06 Link
I bought a Metz 48 AF-1 when I got my Pentax K-7. I can't fault it, works great off camera as well as on camera. If I had to buy another flash gun, it would probably be the Metz 58 AF-1 as it's a more powerful flash.
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George Lazarette
Posted 13/02/2010 - 21:03 Link
I'm not sure you are right, Stefan, to say that Metz haven't purchased the right to use Pentax code to make compatible flashes. It is widely believed that this is true of Sigma, but I haven't heard it said about Metz.

However, I could be wrong.

G
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Anvh
Posted 13/02/2010 - 22:45 Link
George Lazarette wrote:
I'm not sure you are right, Stefan, to say that Metz haven't purchased the right to use Pentax code to make compatible flashes. It is widely believed that this is true of Sigma, but I haven't heard it said about Metz.

However, I could be wrong.
Could be, either way it isn't a problem since you can update at home with just an USB cable if it's needed. At least I wouldn't lay awake whoring about that...
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Oggy
Posted 13/02/2010 - 23:17 Link
Anvh wrote:
Could be, either way it isn't a problem since you can update at home with just an USB cable if it's needed. At least I wouldn't lay awake whoring about that...
I am not quite sure you got the right word there Stefan
techno-terminator
Posted 13/02/2010 - 23:19 Link
Oggy wrote:
Anvh wrote:
Could be, either way it isn't a problem since you can update at home with just an USB cable if it's needed. At least I wouldn't lay awake whoring about that...
I am not quiye sure you got the right word there Stefan
Err - nor did you - shows what the shock did

Stefan I ~think~ you meant worrying
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Anvh
Posted 13/02/2010 - 23:20 Link
Sighs... it's already late here and that with dyslexia is a killer, sorry guys & girls
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Edited by Anvh: 13/02/2010 - 23:21
Oggy
Posted 13/02/2010 - 23:25 Link
Normally your English is very good Stefan - fair play to you. That one was just unfortunate.
Anvh
Posted 13/02/2010 - 23:28 Link
Yeah I always have that bad luck, virginity instead of vignetting was such another one

Don't worry though I can laugh about it, was just trying to go too fast.

ps. there is an obvious theme in my mistakes though
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Edited by Anvh: 13/02/2010 - 23:29
Photomonk
Posted 13/02/2010 - 23:34 Link
Anvh wrote:
Yeah I always have that bad luck, virginity instead of vignetting was such another one

Don't worry though I can laugh about it, was just trying to go too fast.

ps. there is an obvious theme in my mistakes though
Yes Stefan and I do not think it is photography or a Pentax.

The Photomonk
Anvh
Posted 13/02/2010 - 23:44 Link
Photomonk wrote:
Yes Stefan and I do not think it is photography or a Pentax.
Sorry Photomonk for my sins but hey 22 years young and a student that says enough I think.
Stefan
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