Which eye?
Posted 01/10/2010 - 19:07
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I am right handed, but hold the camera to my left eye. Just tried that little test. It works!... I have a master left eye. We learn something new every day, eh!
Also, just discovered that I can close my right eye very easily, but closing the left while keeping the right open is difficult and screws my face up with the effort.
Never shot a gun in my entire life.
Also, just discovered that I can close my right eye very easily, but closing the left while keeping the right open is difficult and screws my face up with the effort.
Never shot a gun in my entire life.
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Posted 01/10/2010 - 19:30
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I just close both eyes I suspect I may be doing
something wrong
something wrong
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Posted 01/10/2010 - 21:33
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prsjnb wrote:
Reading this thread has made me reach for the anti-anxiolytics: I had no idea that so many members on the forum tote firearms as well as cameras and expensive glass
Henceforth, my posts, especially in response to requests for C&C, are going to be considerably more circumspect and respectful
Any forum member know where I can get kevlar body armour for a good price
Jon
Sold all mine long ago, prefer leaving things alive and well when I shoot these daysReading this thread has made me reach for the anti-anxiolytics: I had no idea that so many members on the forum tote firearms as well as cameras and expensive glass
Henceforth, my posts, especially in response to requests for C&C, are going to be considerably more circumspect and respectful
Any forum member know where I can get kevlar body armour for a good price
Jon
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Posted 02/10/2010 - 04:24
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johnwhit wrote:
It seems you have a left master eye, if you point at an object with both eyes open, then close one eye at a time, whichever eye sees you still pointing at the object is your master eye.
John (who keeps both eyes open)
That works. I'm left eyed. I just tried it and my left eye was on target, right eye wasn't. It seems you have a left master eye, if you point at an object with both eyes open, then close one eye at a time, whichever eye sees you still pointing at the object is your master eye.
John (who keeps both eyes open)
nice! thanks!
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Posted 02/10/2010 - 04:26
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alig wrote:
Another right-handed but left eyed here...
And me.
Another right-handed but left eyed here...
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Posted 02/10/2010 - 04:30
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Blythman wrote:
There's no disadvantage!!alig wrote:
Another right-handed but left eyed here...
We're definitely at a disadvantage Ali. I can just about manage what the other guys say, but its very uncomfortable, and I struggle to see the viewdinder information. This means I have to set up with my left eye, which defeats the object, unless I'm happy to hand over full control of the settings to a program mode.Another right-handed but left eyed here...
Just use your left eye in the viewfinder. What's the problem?
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Posted 02/10/2010 - 23:32
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Smeggypants wrote:
There's no disadvantage!!
Just use your left eye in the viewfinder. What's the problem?
I do use my left eye. And I don't have a problem. However, I'm sure you'll find that a lot of Right eye users also keep their Left eye open too, enabling them to view what is going on outside of the viewfinder which can be of additional help. For example, seeing things in advance of coming into frame, both wanted and unwanted.
There's no disadvantage!!
Just use your left eye in the viewfinder. What's the problem?
Posted 02/10/2010 - 23:40
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Alan why won't you be able to do that with your right eye?
Posted 03/10/2010 - 00:11
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Blythman wrote:
Because the shutter release is on the RH side, so the right hand blocks the view.
Its not a big deal, because its the norm for me. Just wondering if there were many others in the same boat
You can't really look with both eyes at once anyway if one of them is looking through the view finder. You get a confused and double image, i just tried it.Because the shutter release is on the RH side, so the right hand blocks the view.
Its not a big deal, because its the norm for me. Just wondering if there were many others in the same boat
I just analysed my own technique and I look through the finder with my left eye and simply drop the camera down slightly and look over the top with my left eye ( or both eyes if it's for an extended period of time )
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Posted 03/10/2010 - 09:43
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johnwhit wrote:
It seems you have a left master eye, if you point at an object with both eyes open, then close one eye at a time, whichever eye sees you still pointing at the object is your master eye.
John (who keeps both eyes open)
Just tried that, it seems that I've been using the "wrong" eye all these years! It seems you have a left master eye, if you point at an object with both eyes open, then close one eye at a time, whichever eye sees you still pointing at the object is your master eye.
John (who keeps both eyes open)
I usually use my right eye but that test came out in favour of the left.
Matt
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Posted 03/10/2010 - 14:18
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Blythman wrote:
Because the shutter release is on the RH side, so the right hand blocks the view.
Ah okay ^^Because the shutter release is on the RH side, so the right hand blocks the view.
Smeggypants wrote:
You can't really look with both eyes at once anyway if one of them is looking through the view finder. You get a confused and double image, i just tried it.
Actually you can but it takes getting used to.You can't really look with both eyes at once anyway if one of them is looking through the view finder. You get a confused and double image, i just tried it.
But it's still hard to compose though, so for critical stuff it isn't useful but for action orientated things you just make sure the subject is in the centre bracket and it will most of the time be al right.
Posted 03/10/2010 - 15:44
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Let' not confuse camera ergonomics with human/camera optics.
I find that I use R/L eyes depending on:
Portrait/landscape orientation.
Lever wind or non-lever wind.
But always release shutter with R-Hand.
Master eye can be misleading, as can the "both eyes open" position.
There are two different reasons why one might want both eyes open - both with cameras and firearms. Each has its own sub-set of conditions.
The second open eye minimises transverse muscle strain across the eyes.
The second open eye permits a wide wiew of the scene in some cases.
Take high-speed action (eg motor racing). You have both eyes open, look through the viewfinder with one, pan, and the second eye may stop you from panning too far and taking a nice shot of the next guy's head.
You look through a telescopic sight and pan, again you might avoid an obstruction. But - and it's a BIG BUT - the whole optical setup has changed. Viewing eye has a scene that is subject to magnification of some degree and which is not "natural" size. The effect is that the scene moves past the viewing eye at a different apparent rate to the non-viewing eye.
So, the shooter with the open but occluded non-viewing eye has minimised transverse strain and distraction from the two apparently different scenes. Some photographers using SLRs have found that half-closing the non-viewing eye can also minimise any distraction.
This seems to be one of thone times where there is not one right way, but is a case of what works best for you.
Geoff
I find that I use R/L eyes depending on:
Portrait/landscape orientation.
Lever wind or non-lever wind.
But always release shutter with R-Hand.
Master eye can be misleading, as can the "both eyes open" position.
There are two different reasons why one might want both eyes open - both with cameras and firearms. Each has its own sub-set of conditions.
The second open eye minimises transverse muscle strain across the eyes.
The second open eye permits a wide wiew of the scene in some cases.
Take high-speed action (eg motor racing). You have both eyes open, look through the viewfinder with one, pan, and the second eye may stop you from panning too far and taking a nice shot of the next guy's head.
You look through a telescopic sight and pan, again you might avoid an obstruction. But - and it's a BIG BUT - the whole optical setup has changed. Viewing eye has a scene that is subject to magnification of some degree and which is not "natural" size. The effect is that the scene moves past the viewing eye at a different apparent rate to the non-viewing eye.
So, the shooter with the open but occluded non-viewing eye has minimised transverse strain and distraction from the two apparently different scenes. Some photographers using SLRs have found that half-closing the non-viewing eye can also minimise any distraction.
This seems to be one of thone times where there is not one right way, but is a case of what works best for you.
Geoff
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Posted 06/06/2011 - 18:41
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I was just going to post a survey about this topic but then found this thread. I'm currently trying to figure out why I mis-frame so many of my shots (and even started a thread about it - I was wondering if it was something to do with my glasses). My thoughts have switched to the eye that I use. I'm normally right-eye dominant (and left-handed, for what it's worth) but have always used my left eye to look through the viewfinder. It's just more comfortable that way.
Maybe I'll try my right eye to see if it makes a difference.
EM
Maybe I'll try my right eye to see if it makes a difference.
EM
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I keep both eyes open too, one (the right) is looking through the camera and the other is scanning what isn't in the viewfinder. It takes practice.
Ken have you ever tried a camera with a digital viewfinder, if so what's your experience with using both eyes with those
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