What filter
Posted 10/03/2009 - 22:52
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Widely and wildly divergent opinions on this one. Do a forum search for "knee" and check out that thread.
Cheers, Kris.
Cheers, Kris.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Posted 11/03/2009 - 10:57
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A UV or skylight filter was a natural thing to put on all your lenses when shooting film. It would help with the slight blueish cast that shooting outdoors would bring on film.
This is unnecessary on digital, so the only reason you would use one would be for protection.
The digital sensor is more susceptible to stray scattered light than film, so many reccomend not using a filter as it just adds an extra piece of glass into the light path. This is also a reason why the hood is very important (and adds some protection to boot).
I dont use filters for protection , unless I suppose I was snapping on a windswept beach !
ps. I have never damaged the front of a lens element in 30 years.
This is unnecessary on digital, so the only reason you would use one would be for protection.
The digital sensor is more susceptible to stray scattered light than film, so many reccomend not using a filter as it just adds an extra piece of glass into the light path. This is also a reason why the hood is very important (and adds some protection to boot).
I dont use filters for protection , unless I suppose I was snapping on a windswept beach !
ps. I have never damaged the front of a lens element in 30 years.
Peter
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Posted 11/03/2009 - 11:14
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ok great i have a hood already but think i will go for a filter just for the protection aspect
Posted 11/03/2009 - 11:37
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I don't tend to use filters for protection but if I did I'd stick with the high quality ones: Pentax (hard to find), B+W (very expensive) and Hoya (just about right).
If you put a cheap filter in front of your lens you'll degrade image quality - almost like permanently shooting through a window.
If you put a cheap filter in front of your lens you'll degrade image quality - almost like permanently shooting through a window.
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Posted 11/03/2009 - 16:39
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Pentax filters come up every so often on ebay and I have managed to pick up a number of useful ones from there.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Posted 11/03/2009 - 18:49
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I have Pentax filters, almost all SMC, for all my Pentax SMC lenses. UVs are intended to cut haze which is useful outdoors with long lenses.
The only time I ever damaged a lens was when the lens fell about 8 inches onto a carpeted floor. The filter broke and damaged the front element. No protection filter and there would have been no damage.
I use them for protection from salt water spray and sand etc. not for protection against impact. When you think about it, the front element is a much thicker and stronger piece of glass than a wafer thin filter.
The only time I ever damaged a lens was when the lens fell about 8 inches onto a carpeted floor. The filter broke and damaged the front element. No protection filter and there would have been no damage.
I use them for protection from salt water spray and sand etc. not for protection against impact. When you think about it, the front element is a much thicker and stronger piece of glass than a wafer thin filter.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Posted 11/03/2009 - 21:53
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how about a sigma filter will this be ok?
Posted 11/03/2009 - 21:57
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I'm sure it will be, my only experience is with Pentax and Hoya. I'm selling a lens just now to finance a 67mm Hoya Polariser!
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Posted 11/03/2009 - 23:58
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Carl, I did have a UV filter on that lens just for protection and it was an expensive one.
Like I said, it's cheaper to buy another filter than to buy a new lens if you do drop it.
Paul
ps glad you received it ok
Edit: spelling mistake
Like I said, it's cheaper to buy another filter than to buy a new lens if you do drop it.
Paul
ps glad you received it ok
Edit: spelling mistake
Posted 12/03/2009 - 00:33
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ok thansk fort he info peeps
Posted 12/03/2009 - 12:19
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Mr Bug wrote:
Carl, I did have a UV filter on that lens just for protection and it was an expensive one.
Like I said, it's cheaper to buy another filter than to buy a new lens if you do drop it.
Paul
ps glad you received it ok
Edit: spelling mistake
Interesting post. I generally don't use filters unless for a specific reason, and protection isn't one of them. I can't believe how a flimsy piece of glass on the front of your lens will give any protection what so ever if you drop it. All those tiny shards and splinters smashing against the element will do just as much damage, whether you have one on or not, IMO Carl, I did have a UV filter on that lens just for protection and it was an expensive one.
Like I said, it's cheaper to buy another filter than to buy a new lens if you do drop it.
Paul
ps glad you received it ok
Edit: spelling mistake
Although I don't have first hand experience either.
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Posted 12/03/2009 - 12:30
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Clarky
Maybe it's a habit that I am reluctant to let go of. From the age of 12, when my dad bought me my first camera, a Praktica MTL50, I have always popped a UV filter on the front of my lenses.
Now I'm in my 30 somethings I still do that.
I take so much care of my equipment that I will do anything to protect it, even if it's only a "flimsy" piece of glass. I have a top level insurance who will replace anything straight away, but it's the hassle.
I will continue to protect my lenses in my old fashioned way but I do understand if people think it's a little OTT, but that's me really
Paul
Maybe it's a habit that I am reluctant to let go of. From the age of 12, when my dad bought me my first camera, a Praktica MTL50, I have always popped a UV filter on the front of my lenses.
Now I'm in my 30 somethings I still do that.
I take so much care of my equipment that I will do anything to protect it, even if it's only a "flimsy" piece of glass. I have a top level insurance who will replace anything straight away, but it's the hassle.
I will continue to protect my lenses in my old fashioned way but I do understand if people think it's a little OTT, but that's me really
Paul
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