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ems82
Posted 03/03/2010 - 18:28 Link
Hello i have not been out with camera for ages and still learning would love some comments and suggestions for better images
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[IMG]http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss344/ems82_photos/7.jpg[/IMG]
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[IMG]http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss344/ems82_photos/4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss344/ems82_photos/3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss344/ems82_photos/2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss344/ems82_photos/1_edited-1.jpg[/IMG]
Emma
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
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bwlchmawr
Posted 03/03/2010 - 18:41 Link
Ah, Emma. What a wonderful place! I particularly like the sad angel (I like sad angels anyway and may get some treatment for it!) with the over arching tree.

If you don't mind my saying: your conversion to monochrome is a little flat, that is to say, no real whites or blacks, just greys (a bit like the MPs in the Houses of Parliament). (I know you've had a few disappointments with monochrome of late.)

I've taken the liberty of adjusting the levels and adding a nice funereal border.

I hope you don't think I've been presumptuous...
[IMG]http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad116/ADC3440/emmas.jpg[/IMG]

Respectfully yours,

Andrew
Best wishes,

Andrew

"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference.  All of them can record what you are seeing.  But, you have to SEE."
Ernst Hass
My website: http://www.ephotozine.com/user/bwlchmawr-199050
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ems82
Posted 03/03/2010 - 18:44 Link
Very nice Andrew alot better could you run me through how to make it 'pop' like that where am i going wrong:
Emma
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
Lenses Pentax 50mm, Pentax 135mm, Tamron 70-300 macro
bwlchmawr
Posted 03/03/2010 - 18:56 Link
O.K. Emma,

Just don't refer to it as "going wrong": you have a great eye and a steady hand. My own monochrome conversions have been criticised on these pages for lacking contrast! Any one can learn a bit of simple post-processing. All I did was open the image up in Photoshop. I know you have Elements and that's a super package, all you need really.

Now select LEVELS. You'll see a HISTOGRAM with three sliders. I noticed your mountain range is concentrated in the middle where all the grey tones lie. I dragged the right hand pointer in to the left(that's just below the graph) until it touched the hills (NO FURTHER or you'll blow your highlights and that's a bad thing!)

Do the same with the left hand pointer but move it to the right (this increases blacks and ensures you have a full range of tones.)

Now just move the middle pointer left or right (just a little) and observe the difference it makes... This is more to your individual taste.

I also did a little dodging and burning...but I'll explain that another time.

You shoud end up with something like this:
[IMG]http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad116/ADC3440/emma2.jpg[/IMG]

Hope this helps. Have a go and let's see the improvement.

Kind regards,

Andrew
Best wishes,

Andrew

"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference.  All of them can record what you are seeing.  But, you have to SEE."
Ernst Hass
My website: http://www.ephotozine.com/user/bwlchmawr-199050
http://s927.photobucket.com/home/ADC3440/index
https://www.flickr.com/photos/78898196@N05
ems82
Posted 03/03/2010 - 19:04 Link
I have not got a menu that says levels i got the histogram bit but i cant change it
Emma
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
Lenses Pentax 50mm, Pentax 135mm, Tamron 70-300 macro
ems82
Posted 03/03/2010 - 19:08 Link
just found it ill see what i can do
Emma
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
Lenses Pentax 50mm, Pentax 135mm, Tamron 70-300 macro
ems82
Posted 03/03/2010 - 19:16 Link
where do i found borders sorry its new
Emma
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
Lenses Pentax 50mm, Pentax 135mm, Tamron 70-300 macro
womble
Posted 03/03/2010 - 19:30 Link
Not sure how one does this in elements but in photoshop I do:

1. Type ctrl-A to select the entire image.
2. Type ctrl-C to copy it
3. Make sure you background colour is the colour you want (either black or white, usually. The colours are at the bottom of the toolbar).
4. Go to File-> new This will give you a dialog box with the dimensions of the image you just copied to the clipboard. Increase the width and the height by the same number of pixels (e.g., add 60 to both values). Make sure Background contents is set to Background colour. Click OK.
5. This gives you a new image. Type ctrl-v to paste your image into the new one.

HTH. K.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
bwlchmawr
Posted 03/03/2010 - 19:35 Link
Hi Emma,

I didn't actually use borders on this, I went to "Image" in the menu at the top of the screen and then "Canvas size" changing the size to .5cm width and height, making the colour (or color as the Americans will have it) black. If you want to add a border, as such, Select ALL, edit, stroke...then it's obvious.

And don't apologise for asking how to do something: I'm doing it all the time!

I want to see the finished version, remember!

Best wishes,

Andrew

P.S. Does this remind you of anything...
[IMG]http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad116/ADC3440/Victorian%20Cemetery/Pictures173.jpg[/IMG]
Best wishes,

Andrew

"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference.  All of them can record what you are seeing.  But, you have to SEE."
Ernst Hass
My website: http://www.ephotozine.com/user/bwlchmawr-199050
http://s927.photobucket.com/home/ADC3440/index
https://www.flickr.com/photos/78898196@N05
ems82
Posted 03/03/2010 - 19:49 Link
Where did that photo come from? And i just trying to change the canvas size, but its not working.. its coming out really small:
Thanks again
Emma
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
Lenses Pentax 50mm, Pentax 135mm, Tamron 70-300 macro
womble
Posted 03/03/2010 - 19:52 Link
It depends on the size of your original picture how many pixels you need to expand the canvass by to make a nice sized border. To take silly extremes, if your photo is only 200 pixels wide, expanding the canvass by 10 might be enough but the same image 2000 pixels wide would need 100 pixels. Just try making the numbers larger until you are happy!

K.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
ems82
Posted 03/03/2010 - 20:16 Link
This any better:

[IMG]http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss344/ems82_photos/6_edited-1.jpg[/IMG]
Emma
"Photography is a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. What you have caught on film is captured forever... it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten everything." Aaron Siskind
Bodies K20D, LTL 3, K1000d
Lenses Pentax 50mm, Pentax 135mm, Tamron 70-300 macro
womble
Posted 03/03/2010 - 20:28 Link
Excellent! I might be tempted to brighten the light tones a little in the histogram, like this:

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You have some space to play with on the right hand side.

Hope this helps!

Kris.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Anvh
Posted 03/03/2010 - 20:30 Link
Emma they look very good and the last one you have make it "pop", for my taste you could even have a bit more contrast in it.
Stefan
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bwlchmawr
Posted 03/03/2010 - 20:34 Link
Next time Emms just go direct to Kris: he knows so much about Photoshop and photography in general! He even uses keyed short cuts using the control key!

You really don't need me to confirm how much better that shot is.

The important point is: are you happier with it?

I seem to remember a couple of days ago you were concerned about indifferent monochrome conversions. Moved on a bit, haven't you?

Tomorrow we'll look at dodge and burn for localised contrast control...

Andrew

P.S. As for my shot...it looks better in monochrome but I've mislaid it! Our local cemetery is the place, not up to the grandeur of London, but not too bad. I've a whole set to bore you with if...
Best wishes,

Andrew

"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference.  All of them can record what you are seeing.  But, you have to SEE."
Ernst Hass
My website: http://www.ephotozine.com/user/bwlchmawr-199050
http://s927.photobucket.com/home/ADC3440/index
https://www.flickr.com/photos/78898196@N05

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