Welding Mask Glass

Frogherder
Posted 22/07/2011 - 15:14 Link
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Unless you have a specially modified camera IR & UV response is very much less than visible. So the variations with non-vissual light are not significant.
I have a bog standard K10D and have lifted the figures from a photocopy from the manufacturers and compared their figures with a table from Wikipedia (ND filters)

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+ delivery costs?
No idea - I walk into the shop when I need things.

Do you have a local industrial tool/welding store? (Just realised where you are)


Thought these might be of interest (nothing special, just my back garden) taken to assess the #10filter

#1 taken without any filter 1/10 sec f32 ISO400 for reference
[IMG]http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff444/Frogherder/IMGP6801.jpg[/IMG]
#2 taken with No 10 filter 120sec f27 (no idea why it changed - must have caught the thumbwheel) ISO400 then photoshop in an attempt to emove the green cast
[IMG]http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff444/Frogherder/IMGP6807a.jpg[/IMG]

Bernard
Edited by moderator: 30/08/2011 - 10:49
Mannesty
Posted 22/07/2011 - 15:27 Link
Lovely garden, but is this an appropriate scene to test such a filter?

Those are actually the same shot 35mm - f32 - 1/10 - ISO400 (check the EXIF data), which is why I can't see any difference You've linked to the same image in both cases.

I'd thought that the primary use for a 10 stopper would be where flowing water or clouds were in the scene, to give them that creamy look.

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Do you have a local industrial tool/welding store?
If I do, I wouldn't know what it looked like, or what to ask for when I got inside
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Edited by Mannesty: 22/07/2011 - 15:31
Frogherder
Posted 22/07/2011 - 15:35 Link
Whoops, edited accordingly.

Shot in the garden simply to gauge the "stoppage" if the set up - easier than fiddling out in the field

Bernard

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If I do, I wouldn't know what it looked like, or what to ask for when I got inside
Sorry Peter I can't help you there - I don't even know if there is an equivalent to Yellow Pages over there, but Spain is an industrial country so I assumed there would be
Mannesty
Posted 22/07/2011 - 16:04 Link
Frogherder wrote:
I don't even know if there is an equivalent to Yellow Pages over there . . .
Curiosly enough, we do. It's called Paginas Amarillo (Yellow Pages)
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
womble
Posted 22/07/2011 - 19:30 Link
My £2 bit of glass arrived today. I found it fits into a spare Cokin filter I have (no idea why I have it as I don't have any Cokin filters that fit it. The ones I do have are from 25 years ago...) I just need to buy an adaptor ring now. I'll probably go for 52mm and 58mm rings so I can use my old K series manual glass. It might be easier to maintain focusing that way (and they have depth of field scales)

All I need now is some sea/lake/river/something moving. I thought I might try "removing" people from a street scene...

K.
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Algernon
Posted 22/07/2011 - 19:49 Link
Try a football match with no players!
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Blythman
Posted 22/07/2011 - 20:07 Link
Just bought a set of step up rings covering from 49mm to 77mm and 77mm adaptor ring and filter holder. When they finally get here from China, I'll be able to use the glass on every lens I have except the Bigmos
Alan


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Frogherder
Posted 23/07/2011 - 16:17 Link
Gareth, I found the glare was from the eyepiece. Black that out and all OK

Bernard
Blythman
Posted 23/07/2011 - 20:33 Link
Sorry I didn't explain it very well Gareth, but looks like you've got there in the end
Alan


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petrochemist
Posted 31/07/2011 - 11:37 Link
I've just had a very quick play with my new expensive gold plated welding glass.
(According to the Flickr group the gold ones give a better colour cast)
The £5 investment seems worth it as this shot of the sun (through a shade 13) has been done on auto white balance, and the only PP has been a crop.

Comment Image


1/500s F16 200ISO

I'm convinced the spots on this one are sun spots not the muck on my sensor, as they are in a consistent location on 3 images all on different parts of the sensor. (The other two both show sensor muck so I really MUST get my sensor cleaned!!!)

I think the colour cast is much better than I got with the Green glass, but still in need of treatment.
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.

.[size=11:].Flickr• WPF• Panoramio
Edited by petrochemist: 31/07/2011 - 11:46
Blythman
Posted 31/07/2011 - 11:41 Link
I've now got a gold one too. Waiting for my 77mm adaptor ring to tape it to
Alan


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Frogherder
Posted 31/07/2011 - 16:20 Link
You might also like to try the metallised polythene, often used for emergency blankets.
That's what was being used to observe the sun during a recent eclipse. I was able to view the eclipse but it never occured to me to use it over a lens

Bernard
Frogherder
Posted 01/08/2011 - 10:16 Link
Gareth,
Could the red lines be from the red electricians tape you used? (I use 2 laps of black tape)

I have had faint bright streaks in older ones of mine (when used for their original purpose) at this stage I would go and get another and scrap the faulty one (prefer my eyes uncooked)

By the way (if I'm not advising you something you already know)
Buck & Hickman (Tooltastic) have a depot :-
Neptune Point
Vanguard Way
Ocean Park
CF24 5PG

I always get my welding spares from the Burton depot

regards
Bernard
Blythman
Posted 01/08/2011 - 10:38 Link
petrochemist wrote:
I've just had a very quick play with my new expensive gold plated welding glass.
Forgot to ask.....

If yours is the same as mine, the gold coating is just one one side. Did you try it with that coating facing out, and also facing in. If so, did it make a difference?

cheers
Alan


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petrochemist
Posted 01/08/2011 - 13:03 Link
Blythman wrote:
petrochemist wrote:
I've just had a very quick play with my new expensive gold plated welding glass.
Forgot to ask.....

If yours is the same as mine, the gold coating is just one one side. Did you try it with that coating facing out, and also facing in. If so, did it make a difference?

cheers
I used it facing out only. When facing the sun I wan't as mech as possible reflected away before being absorbed by other factors. When I get round to mounting it so it doesn't have to be held I might try both ways...
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.

.[size=11:].Flickr• WPF• Panoramio

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