Weekly Competition # 80 - Nearness

gartmore
Posted 20/01/2009 - 08:48 Link
hefty1 wrote:
Coriander wrote:
I have entered a few times but dread winning because of the onerous task of providing meaningful critiques come judging time a week later. Could this be putting members off entering? I know it is great to get feedback but if comments could be expected only on the winning entry and second and third place, then perhaps we could encourage more members to enter?

Dunno. Waddya think?...
Personally I think the critique part is *more* important for those outside the top three as they're the ones who need the input to see where they're going wrong.

Just my opinion though and like John says it doesn't happen very often so I'll carry on entering when I have something suitable...
Frankly I couldn't care less about winning, I've always thought that most competitions were pretty meaningless (for example, a friend got a BAFTA life time achievement award and hasn't worked since!)

This one however is different in that C+C (often of a high order) is provided for all as Hefty1 points out. Without that I see no point in it I'm afraid.

Of 7860 members registered only 600 or so have posted more than twice and of that number only around 260 are regulars (Its hard to be precise) and of that number there is a smaller bunch of usual suspects who enter the competition.

Not wishing to retread stony ground, I do agree with Martin and Hyram that we should make it clear what is expected of the winner/judge. When the competition evolved within the forum there was little need for any written rules at all since we all knew how it worked.

Ken
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
johnriley
Posted 20/01/2009 - 09:31 Link
It's all quite clear and is followed up by PM where necessary. It must be quite clear because every judge so far has done what was expected.

If our recent jusge is unable to provide a critique then it will be covered.
Best regards, John
Father Ted
Posted 20/01/2009 - 10:06 Link
johnriley wrote:
It's all quite clear and is followed up by PM where necessary. It must be quite clear because every judge so far has done what was expected.
I've got to agree with John that, even if not written down, it is clear what is expected.
From the first competition I entered it was clear to me that the judge had to give considered c&c.
So anyone who is vaguely regular on this site would be aware of this convention, even if it is not written down.

( That's why I was made up with my 2nd place, most of the kudos, but I didn't have to judge )
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Edited by Father Ted: 20/01/2009 - 10:07
gartmore
Posted 20/01/2009 - 13:46 Link
It would be no bad thing to have entrants from outwith this little circle who wont know things that aren't written down.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
LiamD
Posted 20/01/2009 - 14:22 Link
Hi all,

you have to remember of course that Uffes, has only been with us for 2 1/2 weeks, and won almost straight away after joining. I think he can be forgiven, especially as someone for whom English isn't their first language, for not being up to speed on the rules and etiquette just now. Now where's that friendly Pentaxian bent that we're all famous for eh?

Just my tuppence woth..

Cheers

Liam
Liam


"Make your hands respond to what your mind demands." Jesse James

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LiamD
Posted 20/01/2009 - 16:49 Link
As a thought, although I generally abhor censorship in a forum!

I suggest that the points made so far be taken on board by whoever it may concern, and that this thread be deleted, in the hope that Uffes hasn't read it.

As a brand new member, can you imagine what it would be like to see this thread, especially after being so happy about winning a competition so soon after joining? I'd personally be mortified. He sounds like a nice person, keen to be here, and hopefully really encouraged in his hobby after the win. Don't really want to chase him off do we? Not a great advert for people thinking about joining either is it.

Another two pence worth.

Cheers

Liam
Liam


"Make your hands respond to what your mind demands." Jesse James

Best wide-angle lens? Two steps backward. Look for the 'ah-ha'. Ernst Haas
Malo1961
Posted 20/01/2009 - 18:21 Link
Sorry Liam, I disagree on this matter. No one is attacking Uffes in person.
Or trying to chase him off.
The question is: How can we persuade all future judges to be, to spend at least a few words on each entrie submitted to the competition.
As stated earlier........Every one likes to hear how their photo is received and critiqued by the judge. Because all of us here want to learn.

There is no need to be afraid of harsh words by members who submit and don't agree with the verdict. You only have to browse through a couple of judge reports, to notice that.

So No, don't delete this thread, not that it would help anyway. Chances are very great he has all ready read it.
Last login of Uffes was this morning at 08:19.

Martin.
Best regards,

Martin.


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johnriley
Posted 20/01/2009 - 23:20 Link
Quote:
The question is: How can we persuade all future judges to be, to spend at least a few words on each entrie submitted to the competition.
They all have, so why do they need persuading?
Best regards, John
Malo1961
Posted 21/01/2009 - 07:17 Link
I can't look into the the future, can you?
Until last week every one has indeed. So I'll guess that isn't a bad score. Still....Things like last week might happen again. Just my opinion of course. But.... if it does, it isn't the end of the world, so...enough said by me about this subject.

Martin.
Best regards,

Martin.


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