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Posted 06/02/2007 - 07:26
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That last one's superb Will.. not much more to add really..
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Liam
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Liam
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Posted 06/02/2007 - 13:38
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Will,
I love the light in the two latter ones. Great shots!
Did you use the awkwardly named "Sky bule emphasis" colour adjustment option in SPDS on the second one?
Cheers,
Prieni
I love the light in the two latter ones. Great shots!
Did you use the awkwardly named "Sky bule emphasis" colour adjustment option in SPDS on the second one?
Cheers,
Prieni
Posted 06/02/2007 - 14:00
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I like all of them.
PS Good news for Sigma.
PS Good news for Sigma.
Posted 06/02/2007 - 14:21
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I like the last one a lot - good position of the sun
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Posted 06/02/2007 - 15:59
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Cheers for the positive comments guys!
The bottom one was pure luck in the positioning of the sun - if you check out the full size image via the link I posted I got a lovely starburst effect of the sun between the towers of Westminster Abbey - doesn't show up so well in the small image!
As for the blue sky in the 2nd one, a quick tweak of the exposure minus about 2/3 stop and add Memory Colour1 in SPDS3 for Velvia like colours.
Loving Silkypix and the K10D but finding that I'm dialing the exposure of RAW's back to anywhere between minus 1/3 to 1 1/2 stops on a lot of the shots I'm playing with. Is anyone else finding the same thing?
I'll have a play with some more when I get home...
Will
The bottom one was pure luck in the positioning of the sun - if you check out the full size image via the link I posted I got a lovely starburst effect of the sun between the towers of Westminster Abbey - doesn't show up so well in the small image!
As for the blue sky in the 2nd one, a quick tweak of the exposure minus about 2/3 stop and add Memory Colour1 in SPDS3 for Velvia like colours.
Loving Silkypix and the K10D but finding that I'm dialing the exposure of RAW's back to anywhere between minus 1/3 to 1 1/2 stops on a lot of the shots I'm playing with. Is anyone else finding the same thing?
I'll have a play with some more when I get home...
Will
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Posted 06/02/2007 - 16:18
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Loving Silkypix and the K10D but finding that I'm dialing the exposure of RAW's back to anywhere between minus 1/3 to 1 1/2 stops on a lot of the shots I'm playing with. Is anyone else finding the same thing?
Will
I'm finding the other way - having to give +1/3 to +1 stopLoving Silkypix and the K10D but finding that I'm dialing the exposure of RAW's back to anywhere between minus 1/3 to 1 1/2 stops on a lot of the shots I'm playing with. Is anyone else finding the same thing?
Will
And yes Silkypix is worth every penny Although if you try CS3 its catching up!
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Posted 06/02/2007 - 16:49
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Is anyone else finding the same thing?
I think it depends on the kind of shot. Don't forget as well, that white balance and colour profile will have an effect on the histogram as well as exposure Is anyone else finding the same thing?
I'm finding that I often have to increase exposure by up to 1 stop - but again that could be down to the combination of lens & scene.
The general way of working with RAW in SPDS3 is:
1. Adjust basic exposure
2. Adjust white balance
3. Tweak contrast
4. Select colour
5. go back to 1 if necessary and loop until happy
6. Adjust sharpness and noise reduction
7. Output
In any of the steps 2-4 you have to keep an eye on the histogram to see where the levels are and go back a step or two until you're happy.
For really rich colours, try pulling down the gamma slightly, and possibly up the contrast a touch (e.g. this image - no polariser, just SPDS3)
Matt
Posted 06/02/2007 - 19:15
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Very nice shots Will, #3 takes the honor's this round
With regards to Silkypix I find like Matt, it all depends on the variables, I've had to adjust upto +/- 2 on some images, but have always ended up with a very usable image.
BTW There is an early preview version of SP3.0.5.2 available for download.
With regards to Silkypix I find like Matt, it all depends on the variables, I've had to adjust upto +/- 2 on some images, but have always ended up with a very usable image.
BTW There is an early preview version of SP3.0.5.2 available for download.
Cheers
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Posted 06/02/2007 - 21:55
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Really finding some of the tips useful chaps - funny how things start to come together... I'm amazed at the additional detail that can be gained by dialing in unsharp once everything else has been tuned to my liking.
Just had another play with my only decent shot from the Sunday morning before the fog came down the Thames - wonder what I could have achieved if I'd not been thinking more about setting up the big MF gear and plonked the K10D on the tripod instead of a quick grab shot at ISO400.
http://www.pbase.com/diffractionphotography/image/74060247
K10D, Sigma 24-70 f2.8, 1/15 @ f4.5, ISO400, Handheld

What do you think? Tell you what I've been thinking - this is one film head well and truly converted...
Will
Just had another play with my only decent shot from the Sunday morning before the fog came down the Thames - wonder what I could have achieved if I'd not been thinking more about setting up the big MF gear and plonked the K10D on the tripod instead of a quick grab shot at ISO400.
http://www.pbase.com/diffractionphotography/image/74060247
K10D, Sigma 24-70 f2.8, 1/15 @ f4.5, ISO400, Handheld

What do you think? Tell you what I've been thinking - this is one film head well and truly converted...
Will
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Posted 07/02/2007 - 10:16
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Will - you've got some serious CA on the left tower. Use the lens adjustment tool in SP-DS3, zoom in, and slowly adjust the CA controls until the red and green converge. (But be sure to check both sides of the image, because you can't always get it perfectly.)
If you can't align in SP-DS3, then try the following in Photoshop:
* Add a new layer
* Change the layer blend mode to "Color"
* Pick a small soft brush, set at 50% opacity
* Alt-click on an adjacent area to pick up the colour, and brush over the CA
* Repeat as necessary
That will keep the luminosity, but reduce the glaring red/green
HTH!
Matt
If you can't align in SP-DS3, then try the following in Photoshop:
* Add a new layer
* Change the layer blend mode to "Color"
* Pick a small soft brush, set at 50% opacity
* Alt-click on an adjacent area to pick up the colour, and brush over the CA
* Repeat as necessary
That will keep the luminosity, but reduce the glaring red/green
HTH!
Matt
Posted 07/02/2007 - 11:14
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Hi Matt,
Thanks for that - I've just had a look at the large original on the website as don't have access here at work to the original files and I can see what you mean. To be fair I've read about CA but never really understood what it meant - nice to have an example...
In layman's terms please...
What causes it? Is it a digital only phenomenon? Is there a way of cutting down on it at the taking stage - i.e. what can I do to avoid it in future? Would it be less visible from a better quality file, either the original RAW or processed TIFF?
I'll probably have a shed load more questions when I get home this eve and have a go at the rectification techniques you've suggested...
Cheers!
Will
Thanks for that - I've just had a look at the large original on the website as don't have access here at work to the original files and I can see what you mean. To be fair I've read about CA but never really understood what it meant - nice to have an example...
In layman's terms please...
What causes it? Is it a digital only phenomenon? Is there a way of cutting down on it at the taking stage - i.e. what can I do to avoid it in future? Would it be less visible from a better quality file, either the original RAW or processed TIFF?
I'll probably have a shed load more questions when I get home this eve and have a go at the rectification techniques you've suggested...
Cheers!
Will
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Posted 07/02/2007 - 11:28
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Hi Will,
Wikipedia has an article: Chromatic Aberration
It's not just digital - it's primarily down to the lens where different wavelengths (ie colours) of light bend at different rates within the lens.
It's often most visible when you have backlighting - but it's always there and if your lens suffers from CA, then correcting it will improve overall sharpness for other images as well
If you shoot RAW, and use Silkypix then that has CA adjustments which can pull the red/green or blue/yellow back into alignment. In SP-DS3 it's the button to the left of the rotation control - it looks like an hourglass figure.
Zoom in to 100 or 200%, and adjust the "R" rate - that's Red/Green.
If you have blue or yellow CA, then adjust the "B" rate.
(In your example, an R rate of +9 looks about right )
Just tweak it very slowly (use the arrows rather than grabbing the slider) and you should see the effect of the adjustment.
Matt
Wikipedia has an article: Chromatic Aberration
It's not just digital - it's primarily down to the lens where different wavelengths (ie colours) of light bend at different rates within the lens.
It's often most visible when you have backlighting - but it's always there and if your lens suffers from CA, then correcting it will improve overall sharpness for other images as well
If you shoot RAW, and use Silkypix then that has CA adjustments which can pull the red/green or blue/yellow back into alignment. In SP-DS3 it's the button to the left of the rotation control - it looks like an hourglass figure.
Zoom in to 100 or 200%, and adjust the "R" rate - that's Red/Green.
If you have blue or yellow CA, then adjust the "B" rate.
(In your example, an R rate of +9 looks about right )
Just tweak it very slowly (use the arrows rather than grabbing the slider) and you should see the effect of the adjustment.
Matt
Posted 07/02/2007 - 20:09
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Thanks again for the tips Matt - perhaps you could gather together some of these odd threads together and put together a guide?
Joking aside, having been able to put all of this into practise I can really see how much of a difference that it's possible to make to a shot. I ended up using a value of +11 on that R channel but it's still not fixed it completely (see top of left tower with bright sky behind) but it has cleared up the worst of it. What I did notice was that it appeared a little worse again in this spot when I applied the final unsharp mask in PS.
I've certainly learnt a lot from this little exercise - the best part is being able to see a real example in one of my own shots. Even reading the article you linked too has widened my knowledge loads - always found this side of things facinating at school hence the website name!
Thanks again for all your help and very constructive comments!
I now need to revisit your tips on setting up screen and printer as the one I've just printed is much more orangey and not the subtle purples I see on screen
Further tweaked version below...
http://www.pbase.com/diffractionphotography/image/74094088

Cheers!
Will
Joking aside, having been able to put all of this into practise I can really see how much of a difference that it's possible to make to a shot. I ended up using a value of +11 on that R channel but it's still not fixed it completely (see top of left tower with bright sky behind) but it has cleared up the worst of it. What I did notice was that it appeared a little worse again in this spot when I applied the final unsharp mask in PS.
I've certainly learnt a lot from this little exercise - the best part is being able to see a real example in one of my own shots. Even reading the article you linked too has widened my knowledge loads - always found this side of things facinating at school hence the website name!
Thanks again for all your help and very constructive comments!
I now need to revisit your tips on setting up screen and printer as the one I've just printed is much more orangey and not the subtle purples I see on screen
Further tweaked version below...
http://www.pbase.com/diffractionphotography/image/74094088

Cheers!
Will
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