Watching the World


Father Ted

Link Posted 03/11/2011 - 22:05
Saw this old guy whilst walking with my son. Just had to grab a shot.




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Last Edited by Father Ted on 03/11/2011 - 22:05

ChrisA

Link Posted 03/11/2011 - 22:26
Why isn't it called 'Reading the paper'?
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trickletreat

Link Posted 03/11/2011 - 22:28
ChrisA wrote:
Why isn't it called 'Reading the paper'?

+1, I like the colour and subject, nice capture.
Nigel

ChrisA

Link Posted 03/11/2011 - 22:29
trickletreat wrote:
ChrisA wrote:
Why isn't it called 'Reading the paper'?

+1, I like the colour and subject, nice capture.
Nigel

Yes, absolutely. I like the photo. Nice candid portrait.

Totally don't get the caption.

I usually hate captions, and this is no exception
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Father Ted

Link Posted 03/11/2011 - 22:30
Because, although he's holding the papaer up, you can see he's actually looking over the top of it. He was actually watching the ducks, but you can't see that in this shot.
Also, I used the title as a bit of a pun as, in my mind, keeping abreast of the news could also be watching what is happening in the world.
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ChrisA

Link Posted 03/11/2011 - 22:36
Father Ted wrote:
Because, although he's holding the papaer up, you can see he's actually looking over the top of it.

Ah, now it's funny you should say that...

When I saw the caption, I thought, 'hmm, I wonder if he's actually looking over the top of the paper'. So I opened it up in PS and zoomed in, which of course I couldn't do very much without pixelation. But I did think that actually he was looking at the paper. If he's really looking over the top, then fair play to you, but it's not obvious to me...

Cmon, let's see a 100% crop then

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Also, I used the title as a bit of a pun as, in my mind, keeping abreast of the news could also be watching what is happening in the world.

Yes, well, that's the sort of reason I hate captions
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Northgrain

Link Posted 03/11/2011 - 22:37
Great image. And the 'bag between the calves' stance is a perfect capture of a typical bench-sitters trait!
Tim

Some of my vaguely better stuff

ChrisA

Link Posted 03/11/2011 - 22:49
Just for the record, I'm kind of making a serious point here. Nothing more than just my view, and I realise others have others... but I offer my reasons for folk to ignore or not as they please.

One of the things I love about looking at pictures is the way they so often lend themselves to interpretations that differ according to the person looking at them. Much like any art, of course.

Stick a caption on the top, and the dynamic changes - now you have the artist effectively telling you how to interpret the art. That's just as Ok as leaving it entirely up to the viewer, but if the link between the caption and the photo is obscure, it introduces obstacles that hinder both one's own interpretation (since now there's a caption overriding any interpretation I might make), and also my understanding of the artist's intent (since it's too obscure for me to 'get').

That's why I dislike a lot of people's captions - possibly because I'm too stupid, but they don't help me understand the artist's intent.

Captions that I like very much are where they are effectively reporting the photographer's experience. They tend to be longer, more descriptive, and the photos end up illustrating the story the photographer wants to tell.

In my book, that's absolutely fine, and makes sense of both the narrative and the images.

But cryptic ones, I don't like. I don't like cryptic crosswords either, I just can't be, erm, faffed
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Father Ted

Link Posted 04/11/2011 - 12:09
ChrisA wrote:
Just for the record, I'm kind of making a serious point here. Nothing more than just my view, and I realise others have others... but I offer my reasons for folk to ignore or not as they please.

One of the things I love about looking at pictures is the way they so often lend themselves to interpretations that differ according to the person looking at them. Much like any art, of course.

Stick a caption on the top, and the dynamic changes - now you have the artist effectively telling you how to interpret the art. That's just as Ok as leaving it entirely up to the viewer, but if the link between the caption and the photo is obscure, it introduces obstacles that hinder both one's own interpretation (since now there's a caption overriding any interpretation I might make), and also my understanding of the artist's intent (since it's too obscure for me to 'get').

That's why I dislike a lot of people's captions - possibly because I'm too stupid, but they don't help me understand the artist's intent.

Captions that I like very much are where they are effectively reporting the photographer's experience. They tend to be longer, more descriptive, and the photos end up illustrating the story the photographer wants to tell.

In my book, that's absolutely fine, and makes sense of both the narrative and the images.

But cryptic ones, I don't like. I don't like cryptic crosswords either, I just can't be, erm, faffed

To be honest, I tend to agree, most of the time. And, most of the time I struggle to think up a title. Maybe I should just leave it with the image number as saved on my machine.
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japers45

Link Posted 04/11/2011 - 13:20
I really wouldnt worry about it too much. I can see that titles can be misconstrued and can confuse the viewer if a little ambiguous. However this isn't a gallery just a place to share photos and ideas.

ChrisA

Link Posted 04/11/2011 - 13:26
japers45 wrote:
I really wouldnt worry about it too much. I can see that titles can be misconstrued and can confuse the viewer if a little ambiguous. However this isn't a gallery just a place to share photos and ideas.

Agreed, I'm not trying to legislate! I just sometimes think people are trying a bit too hard to be clever or funny, and subjectively it often seems to detract from what can be a cracking image that stands on its own.

Conversely, if the photographer really does want to convey exactly what (s)he means, I'm all for captions, explanatory notes, etc etc - they can add a lot of context to otherwise ambiguous images.
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Pentaxophile

Link Posted 04/11/2011 - 13:27
From reading the discussion I had assumed the caption was actually superimposed on the image! I wouldn't worry too much about the thread title, it's just a way of peaking people's interest so they come and have a look.

It's a very nice shot Ted!
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japers45

Link Posted 04/11/2011 - 13:41
Chris-
I do agree with you. I think it difficult to add a title to something without veering into pretention. Having said that some of the worlds most talented people have done this (I think rock bands are some of the worse offenders). I guess you just have to be REALLY good to get away with it sometimes.

I know your not trying to legislate, I think actually your spot on, but I just have a bit of a "don't worry about it" outlook generally.

Eagle12

Link Posted 04/11/2011 - 13:43
Good shot Ted, I'm still trying to pluck up the courage to do street work.
As for titles, I use them mainly for my own use, just to look in my database to find a particular subject.

Stuey

Link Posted 04/11/2011 - 20:41
I like this shot

I reckon the subject of the shot would probably find the whole topic a little amusing in a good way (I could be wrong though)

Personally I like to watch the world go by and suspect that he was reading a little - watching a little - reading a little and so on - I would have been
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