Urgent Assistance from video-ers please
Posted 08/11/2011 - 23:31 - Helpful Comment
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The first thing I would do is a recce of the venue. The second thing would be to practice filming.
Then Keep It Simple could be a great idea.
I'm wondering if it would be better to just use a zoom lens camcorder. They are available chaeply enough on eBay, or someone might lend you one.
Then Keep It Simple could be a great idea.
I'm wondering if it would be better to just use a zoom lens camcorder. They are available chaeply enough on eBay, or someone might lend you one.
Best regards, John
Posted 08/11/2011 - 23:33 - Helpful Comment
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How long is the production?
if longer than 11 mins you'll run into problems.
I'd use a regular video cam for the wide, longer running shot beginning to end, then shoot my b-roll shots with the d-slr and a fast fifty if you got one....
then use the d-slr to do the closer shots.... and use those for the cutaways in post.
also.... either get a cable and line out feed from the master soundboard or look at a sperate mic for the video camera to get cleaner audio in post..
if longer than 11 mins you'll run into problems.
I'd use a regular video cam for the wide, longer running shot beginning to end, then shoot my b-roll shots with the d-slr and a fast fifty if you got one....
then use the d-slr to do the closer shots.... and use those for the cutaways in post.
also.... either get a cable and line out feed from the master soundboard or look at a sperate mic for the video camera to get cleaner audio in post..
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 09/11/2011 - 00:10 - Helpful Comment
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Good idea using a regular video camera for the master shot, and getting a continuous recording of the audio. If all else fails you'll have a record of the performance! But you'll also be free to take closer shots with your K5 and fast lens and not have to worry about messy starts and finishes to takes, stopping and changing lenses, drifting focus etc.
However it can look odd when you cut from a full stage shot to a 'talking head' so think about your editing and don't make life too hard for yourself... as John says, keep it simple.
However it can look odd when you cut from a full stage shot to a 'talking head' so think about your editing and don't make life too hard for yourself... as John says, keep it simple.
Posted 09/11/2011 - 07:40
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Thanks a lot guys, that has given me some good pointers. I do have an old Canon DV camcorder- I wonder if it will look odd as the K5 shoots HD and the camcorder does not. Perhaps I can downgrade the IQ on the K5 to match the DV camcorder (that doesnt "sound" right though).
I will definitely get some kind of microphone I guess any compatible item will be better than just the on board mic- not got much of a budget- although I can see me needing it again if I dont stuff it up..
I think you have provided me with a plan- recce the venue is a must and a practice filming can be done as there are three performances (on the third one I will be doing the stills as well!)
The play will be longer than 11 mins so the K5 will definitely be used for the "cutaways" Don.
As for "keeping it simple"- on this occasion it is a definite.
Do you think the 50-135 would be good for the close ups or should I use the faster FA 50mm 1.4, i do have a 50mm f2 manual lens as well.
I will definitely get some kind of microphone I guess any compatible item will be better than just the on board mic- not got much of a budget- although I can see me needing it again if I dont stuff it up..
I think you have provided me with a plan- recce the venue is a must and a practice filming can be done as there are three performances (on the third one I will be doing the stills as well!)
The play will be longer than 11 mins so the K5 will definitely be used for the "cutaways" Don.
As for "keeping it simple"- on this occasion it is a definite.
Do you think the 50-135 would be good for the close ups or should I use the faster FA 50mm 1.4, i do have a 50mm f2 manual lens as well.
Posted 09/11/2011 - 07:48
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Would I get away with any hand holding or do I definitely need to go with two tripods (or monopod? for the closer shots?)
I really appreciate your help,
Thanks very much
I really appreciate your help,
Thanks very much
Posted 09/11/2011 - 09:12 - Helpful Comment
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the 50 -135 is perfect... the 50 f2 definately good lens... the venue and your shooting position should tell you if you need the longer reach of the zoom, or if you can get away with the prime..
you 'll need to set both camera to manual focus. and check your exposure settings..and color balance... I shoot full manual in these situations, you can use some automation if you like but definately manual focus on your video camera as it will be stationary and the af may hunt at randon if left on auto...
as for hand held... with the k5... depends on how good you are and where your shooting...there may not be room for thetripod.
you 'll need to set both camera to manual focus. and check your exposure settings..and color balance... I shoot full manual in these situations, you can use some automation if you like but definately manual focus on your video camera as it will be stationary and the af may hunt at randon if left on auto...
as for hand held... with the k5... depends on how good you are and where your shooting...there may not be room for thetripod.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 09/11/2011 - 10:10
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Excellent advice Don I'm not sure if the old Canon camcorder has a lot of manual controls, I'll dig it out tonight and have a go. perhaps if I shelled out for your airfare you could make the trip over?
Posted 09/11/2011 - 15:36
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japers45 wrote:
Excellent advice Don I'm not sure if the old Canon camcorder has a lot of manual controls, I'll dig it out tonight and have a go. perhaps if I shelled out for your airfare you could make the trip over?
airfare and booze and you got it!
Excellent advice Don I'm not sure if the old Canon camcorder has a lot of manual controls, I'll dig it out tonight and have a go. perhaps if I shelled out for your airfare you could make the trip over?
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
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It appears that a manual lens would be best for good focus control and silent operating- I was thinking something ultra wide- there seem to be a few on ebay. Any suggestions? 24mm?
I was going to mount on a tripod and just leave it in a good position on close to infinity focus. Then use a second camera to do closer shots and cut them in after (although I dont know how to do this yet).
Am I barking up the wrong tree? It is in 3 weeks so i have a bit of time to practice.
I have always found it difficult to say no to people asking favours- what an idiot. Utterly out of my depth.