Upgrading to Digital from SLR
Posted 13/09/2006 - 22:17
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Stargazer,
I've had it wrong all along.
Instead of shopping for a digital Pentax, I should have been shopping for a wife like you!
Tell him he's one lucky bloke!
Cheers!
I've had it wrong all along.
Instead of shopping for a digital Pentax, I should have been shopping for a wife like you!
Tell him he's one lucky bloke!
Cheers!
Posted 13/09/2006 - 23:29
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Thank you very much, I will! He's a good guy and works hard, so deserves a treat, something I will enjoy too, though I will probably be asking questions on here all the time.
Stargazer
Posted 13/09/2006 - 23:52
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Hi Stargazer..
..many people have reverted to film after trying digital and finding it does not suit them for one reason or another...
cheers Steve.
Oh really? Depends on what you call "many", but if it's more than .1 of 1% of DSLR buyers I would be amazed, and even then they would be people with serious computer-phobia or an ingrained inability to cope with change of any sort.Hi Stargazer..
..many people have reverted to film after trying digital and finding it does not suit them for one reason or another...
cheers Steve.
Hands up all readers of this list who have given a Pentax DSLR a serious try and then reverted to film.
G
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Posted 15/09/2006 - 00:35
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Although we continue to use film, this is only specifically to provide pictures for competitions and inter-club "battles". I am of course talking about slide film.
If the results from Cavendish are good (we've just sent off a CD to be written to slide film) then even this may be in doubt and digital may completely take over.
Unless, of course, there is a specific job to do that requires film for some reason.
If the results from Cavendish are good (we've just sent off a CD to be written to slide film) then even this may be in doubt and digital may completely take over.
Unless, of course, there is a specific job to do that requires film for some reason.
Best regards, John
Posted 15/09/2006 - 15:21
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Hiya,
G says: " even then they would be people with serious computer-phobia or an ingrained inability to cope with change of any sort"
That really is a very outrageously narrow minded and sweeping statement and just plain silly thing to say.
..a little story (true, not invention)..a large further education college in England which has media studies courses, which include photography being taught to a high level by former professional photographers closed it's darkrooms about 3 years ago. The student intake has increased and after so many students requested darkroom facilities they have had to be re-inststated. Many students are having so much fun with this 'dead medium' and getting such good results several of the students have ditched digital because they prefer the results from film.
The students are aged from about 18 up to 27...they certainly are not computer phobic nor are they resisitant to change...they simply prefer the results they now get...why G cannot understand the possibility of this happening I fail to see.
I use both film and digital, they both have their place, the debate is not helped by narrow mindedness or dogma on EITHER side of the fence.
rant over,
Cheers Steve.
G says: " even then they would be people with serious computer-phobia or an ingrained inability to cope with change of any sort"
That really is a very outrageously narrow minded and sweeping statement and just plain silly thing to say.
..a little story (true, not invention)..a large further education college in England which has media studies courses, which include photography being taught to a high level by former professional photographers closed it's darkrooms about 3 years ago. The student intake has increased and after so many students requested darkroom facilities they have had to be re-inststated. Many students are having so much fun with this 'dead medium' and getting such good results several of the students have ditched digital because they prefer the results from film.
The students are aged from about 18 up to 27...they certainly are not computer phobic nor are they resisitant to change...they simply prefer the results they now get...why G cannot understand the possibility of this happening I fail to see.
I use both film and digital, they both have their place, the debate is not helped by narrow mindedness or dogma on EITHER side of the fence.
rant over,
Cheers Steve.
Posted 15/09/2006 - 19:48
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I wonder how much longer film will be available? There seems to be a stampede to get out of the market.
Posted 16/09/2006 - 14:19
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Film is now belly up. Personally I can only think of a couple of specialised instances where I might still use it. Film disappeared from general television production 15 years ago, it was still used for major dramas but now HDTV has largely put paid to that. It is inevitable that still photography will follow that model. There are of course still people around use wet collodian and gum bichromate and good luck to them but digital is King until something else comes along.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Posted 16/09/2006 - 14:27
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half the recommended supllies on my college list were no longer made...tri-x, certian papers spotting materials, etc.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 17/09/2006 - 22:54
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It seems I've started something by using the word 'upgrade'!
Stargazer
Posted 18/09/2006 - 12:37
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knowing you're not going to run out of film at a crucial time
But you can run out of batteries.
knowing you're not going to run out of film at a crucial time
Posted 18/09/2006 - 22:07
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Well what we need then is Trevor Bayliss to slap one of his wind-up thingies to a battery grip.
http://windupradio.com/FPFreeCharge.htm
http://windupradio.com/FPFreeCharge.htm
Posted 19/09/2006 - 03:03
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Truth is, no matter how sentimental you might be about film, anybody starting photography right now, either as a hobby or with professional aspirations, is well advised to choose digital over film. Reason . . . the learning curve is sooooooo steep thanks to the near instant review of captured images that students can be producing fine work in a fraction of the time and at a fraction of the cost (disgregarding the intialoutlay for equipment). That said, the same student may not know his f-stop from his hyperfocal distance, but that does not prevent some high class images being produced in a very short space of time. If forced to use film, many would give up very early on.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Posted 20/09/2006 - 01:31
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Woman, watching some photographers marching along: "they was all out of step except our Steve".
Steve, old lad (I'm fairly sure you're not young), don't think by calling me narrow-minded and stupid that you can magically turn the clock back.
The reason photography courses are still teaching film is that digital has caused a huge resurgence of interest in photography. Look at the number of photo mags (I use the term loosely) on sale now compared with ten years ago.
Many budding photographers feel that they would like to experience how it used to be done, as well as how it is done now, and to try out as many as possible of the different methods and techniques for themselves. And many tutors are happy to oblige.
I know three students who have recently taken photography courses. They all enjoyed the film component, but they all have digital cameras and open minds and they certainly won't be using film in the future.
Nor, I dare say, will you. If you doubt me, look back at some of the comments on this forum made by John Riley and others three years ago.
There has been a Damascene conversion.
And by the way, I can't count any hands.
G
Steve, old lad (I'm fairly sure you're not young), don't think by calling me narrow-minded and stupid that you can magically turn the clock back.
The reason photography courses are still teaching film is that digital has caused a huge resurgence of interest in photography. Look at the number of photo mags (I use the term loosely) on sale now compared with ten years ago.
Many budding photographers feel that they would like to experience how it used to be done, as well as how it is done now, and to try out as many as possible of the different methods and techniques for themselves. And many tutors are happy to oblige.
I know three students who have recently taken photography courses. They all enjoyed the film component, but they all have digital cameras and open minds and they certainly won't be using film in the future.
Nor, I dare say, will you. If you doubt me, look back at some of the comments on this forum made by John Riley and others three years ago.
There has been a Damascene conversion.
And by the way, I can't count any hands.
G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
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At least I'll have a couple of days to play with it before I have to wrap it up.
Cheers