there are still rumours about Pentax Evil Cameras..

as for a compact system with a small sensor... I think it makes sense for Pentax esp if it has an auto 110 mount or c mount...
but what about an aps-c sized sensor?
here is the competition:


Of course the Pentax kx beats them all: link
here is what a sony looks like with a pentax 21mm pancake lens:


so using a kmount adaptor on a fugly body does not exactly make for a compact system..
I for one am glad I went with a kr, but will wait and watch to see if Pentax releases a kx/kr spec'd camera with smaller dimensions and either an evf or pelicile/fixed mirror to compete.
A "Me to" version of the nx or nex would hardly be worth buying if it means another lens mount!

I thought this was the new camera?

link

or is it a PS job? I'm not sure.

Best regards

The picture illustrates perfectly what I fine useless about these new cameras...you have a very compact body with fiddly and easily nudged controls onto which you place a whopping big lens.

It still needs to be carried in the same way as a DSLR and Pentax DSLRs are so compact anyway we might as well stick with them.

I couldn't agree more, the KR paired with the DA35 F/2.4 is tiny and light,and there is still something to hold on to
Regards
Chris

The new large sensor compact cameras are very uncomfortable to hold and not really particularly small.

I was playing with a GF2 and a 20mm f1.7 lens and it felt as heavy as my K10D and was much harder to hold steady as it had no grip!

I'd rather stick a DA21 on a Pentax DSLR.

I was quite tempted by a Sony NEX the 16mm pancake on it is nice and small but the 18-55 isn't all that much smaller than the 18-55 on the Pentax! its hardly pocketable!

I think I'd rather pickup a used smaller "proper" Pentax the Kx or Kr so that I could share my lenses!

That said I'm finding my K20D very compact with the DA 40mm attached, although sadly I'm now lusting after a DA21 and DA15 to go with it

rumor has it to be a 12 mp camera with a compact camera sized sensor... smaller than apsc.
expect an auto 110 or cmount lensmount.

No, I would like an NEX style mirrorless camera from Pentax, and i'm sure they can do a better job with the k-mount adapter. Although a dslr-style mirrorless optimised for liveview and video makes sense too.

A c-mount camera is a bizarre idea but we'll see!

if i was gonna design an evil camera from the ground up for Pentax, here is what I'd do...
make the body cylindrical shaped, slightly wider than the k-mount, with a kmount on one end and an eyecup for the evf on the other and you'd hold it like a spotting scope.... literally, a little smaller than a soda pop can.... maybe a flip out lcd on the side of the "Can"... aps-c sensor and dedicated video button, otherwise the same internals as the k-5. and weather seal it.

so your camera body would be about the same size as your 10-17mm fisheye... with an oversized eyecup on one end and a k-mount on the other.

It's been done Don and was a total flop. Was it Chinon?

yeah there have been a couple.... but things change... there is a generation of compact shooters that expect photo and video capabilities, in one camera, and there are pros looking for a compact backup camera for both photographers and videographers..
Remember the Apple newton? and compare it to the Ipod touch... the first try flopped the second one is a success, blending the touch with the cell phone and it hits a home run...

I'm just thinking the idea hits a home run for three reasons... photos, video, and ergonomics... right handed, left handed (if the photo and video buttons are on top), fits in a lens case or in any camera bag lens compartment... perfect for an evil class cam I think.

Something in AP about the product life of the NEX-3 only being 6 months

That type of camera seems to have a great future.......Not!

I understand production of the NEX-5 has already stopped.

Sony must be mad if they think you'll buy a new camera
every 6 months I hate to think how long they will
carry spare parts for

This is one of the problems with buying cameras that are a bit out of the ordinary. There have been plenty of them, including high end compacts from Contax and Nikon and even Konica.

What spares will there be for these now, and they were not cheap.