teleconverters

suds
Posted 25/08/2009 - 23:27 Link
i am a dslr new boy. i have a gx 10 and 18 to 55 and 50 to 200 kit lenses. As always you are after more reach for sports pictures. As i do not yey want to buy another zomm lens, say a tamron 80 to 300 or simular, has anyone had any experiance with the 1.4 x teleconverter that would do much the same to my 50 to 200 kit lens. Please share your experiance, are they worth considering.

help is always very appreciated.

thank you
matwhittington
Posted 26/08/2009 - 06:36 Link
Hello Suds. I am afraid i have not tried a teleconverter (yet!) with my K10d, but I do use the sigma 70-300mm lens a lot. Probably more than any other lens if I'm honest, and I reckon it performs well, and is probably (somehow) about the same price (or maybe even less) than a teleconverter (based on a quick price check on amazon.co.uk)... I think from memory the one I have is the APO DG lens, f4/f5.6, and it also has a macro function (operated via a switch) between 200 and 300mm, which I use a lot too.

You said you don't want to buy another zoom lens, but it might be worth thinking about (?). Not sure whether that is helpful or not...

Cheers

Mat
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greynolds999
Posted 26/08/2009 - 07:42 Link
If you are interested in sports you need fast shutter speeds, which usually means using fast lenses, ie lenses with wide apertures. The problem is the teleconverter takes away a stop so your f/5.6 aperture at 200mm will become become f/8.0 at 280mm. In order to shoot action you will need good light and a very high ISO causing lots of noise.

Using a teleconverter will always result in a worse image - that's not to say you shouldn't try, but a 1.4 converter will cost you £200 (although you could get a Teleplus 1.5 for less). The Tamron 70-300 will cost you £120 with f/5.6 at the top end.

(Incidentally, I have a 1.5 converter for sale on eBay)
AndrewH
Posted 26/08/2009 - 14:20 Link
If you want a 70-300 zoom I just bought a Tamron 70-300, and picked it up for £96 including next day postage and a Tamron filter (which had a £15 price sticker on it). see this thread and good luck! I'm really pleased with mine, and the thread shows others have achieved some great shots!
Tooks
Posted 26/08/2009 - 15:30 - Helpful Comment Link
Although there a few lenses worth using with a TC, the 55-200 (although a good lens in its own right) isn't one of them in my opinion, nor are the vast majority of 'consumer' zoom lenses whilst we're at it, and I've tried a few!

As above, for the cost of the TC, you can buy a perfectly good 70-300 zoom lens from Tamron or Sigma, which will get you a 'native' 300mm at f5.6.

You may also get better results cropping your picture from the 200mm end of your lens to get the desired result, which would almost certainly be better than 200mm with a TC.
polchraine
Posted 26/08/2009 - 16:07 Link
A generalisation of what you could expect ...


Excellent Lens + Good TC = Good Pictures

Good Lens + Good TC = Average Pictures

Average Lens + Good TC = Poor Picture


Excellent Lens + Average TC = Average Pictures

Good Lens + Average TC = Poor Pictures

Average Lens + Average TC = don't even bother


Where do you put your lens? And what TC?

I only tend to use my TC on a Pentax M400-600 zoom and DA*300 both of which are excellent lenses and my TC is a good/decent one.

I do use it on other lenses, but only when I have taken the minimum of equipment with me, such as taking the K20D and DA*50-135 and the TC tucks in a pocket "just in case" and is easier than taking the DA*300 too.
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K20D, *istD, MZ-S, Super-A, ME Super, MX
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, DA* 300,
DA 50-200, FA 24-90, FA 20-35,
M 400-600, A 50 f1.4, A 28 f2.8, A 70-210, M 35-80, M 50 f1.7
A x2S teleconverter and a few others ...
helios
Posted 29/08/2009 - 12:58 Link
TCs work best with lage aperture long focal length prime lenses. A X1.4 TC looses one stop and a X2 TC looses 2 stops so you really want to start with a fairly wide aperture - F2.8 or F4. I find that my DA*300mm F4 works pretty well with a Tamron 1,4 TC. I have tried using the TC with my Tamron 18-250mm zoom but it really does not work in anything but the brightest light and even then hunts a lot. Apart from the portability of a TC you would be better spending your money on a longer zoom or even better a long prime.

Archie
Archie
Oggy
Posted 29/08/2009 - 14:30 Link
Interesting. My DA*300 and Tamron 1.4 TC do nor get on well. My 60-250 is best on the TC.

Usually a crop from the DA*300 is the best photo.
polchraine
Posted 29/08/2009 - 15:08 Link
Have a look at an older post of mine:

https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/union-flag-9669/p-0#comm_87539
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K20D, *istD, MZ-S, Super-A, ME Super, MX
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, DA* 300,
DA 50-200, FA 24-90, FA 20-35,
M 400-600, A 50 f1.4, A 28 f2.8, A 70-210, M 35-80, M 50 f1.7
A x2S teleconverter and a few others ...
Oggy
Posted 29/08/2009 - 21:28 Link
Quote:
I was thinking of selling the Rear Converter when the new SDM version becomes available...
Oh those were the days when we thought the Pentax TC was coming

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