Split raw conversion advice
Posted 23/06/2009 - 19:23
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I think the join is too obvious, and perhaps the sky was made a little bit too dark to look natural. The clouds should probably be white, with just enough detail in them to avoid looking completely burned - IMO.
On that basis you can use a much bigger and more feathered eraser brush to reveal the shot underneath, which would look more natural I think. The broad brush approach seems to work better for me at least.
You can also set the opacity of the eraser brush so you can work at the image gradually - painting detail into the clouds without going overboard.
On that basis you can use a much bigger and more feathered eraser brush to reveal the shot underneath, which would look more natural I think. The broad brush approach seems to work better for me at least.
You can also set the opacity of the eraser brush so you can work at the image gradually - painting detail into the clouds without going overboard.
Posted 23/06/2009 - 19:31
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If you like, post both examples here (blown out version and the one with a good sky) so some people here can have a go with it, and do the explaining. Adding skies in, to repair blown out ones isn't that hard (even with tree lines)but it's much easier explaining with some examples.
Martin.
Martin.
Posted 23/06/2009 - 20:14
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[IMG]http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/timritaharry/IMGP1435.jpg[/IMG]
original image.
[IMG]http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/timritaharry/harrysky.jpg[/IMG]
exposure lowered to reveal the sky.
original image.
[IMG]http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/timritaharry/harrysky.jpg[/IMG]
exposure lowered to reveal the sky.
Posted 23/06/2009 - 20:25
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Here's my attempt at a more natural looking effect:

I made the original shot the top layer, and made a duplicate layer of it which I turned off.
I then traced around the trees with a feathered selection and hit delete to reveal the dark version underneath.
Then I switched the duplicate layer back on and reduced the opacity to my personal liking. More opacity will show more of the darker sky. It's a matter of personal preference I guess.

I made the original shot the top layer, and made a duplicate layer of it which I turned off.
I then traced around the trees with a feathered selection and hit delete to reveal the dark version underneath.
Then I switched the duplicate layer back on and reduced the opacity to my personal liking. More opacity will show more of the darker sky. It's a matter of personal preference I guess.
Posted 23/06/2009 - 20:49
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yours looks much better ,thanks.ive a lot to learn.
Posted 23/06/2009 - 20:57
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Here's mine.![Comment Image]()
[IMG]http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr227/TTKPhotography_2009/IMGP1435-SKY.jpg[/IMG]
Not quite right.
EDIT: Typo
[IMG]http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr227/TTKPhotography_2009/IMGP1435-SKY.jpg[/IMG]
Not quite right.
EDIT: Typo
Tel,
Posted 23/06/2009 - 22:19
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Posted 24/06/2009 - 11:25
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I would say that Pentaxophile's version is the best.
Just kissing the clouds with the brush works well and just stay away from the trees. It's quite normal to have very white sky.
Terry ! what's that? not even the correct perspective on the clouds.
Just kissing the clouds with the brush works well and just stay away from the trees. It's quite normal to have very white sky.
Terry ! what's that? not even the correct perspective on the clouds.
Posted 24/06/2009 - 12:13
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Darkmunk wrote:
I would say that Pentaxophile's version is the best.
Just kissing the clouds with the brush works well and just stay away from the trees. It's quite normal to have very white sky.
Terry ! what's that? not even the correct perspective on the clouds.
A cock up I was messing about with two or three and put the wrong one on.
I would say that Pentaxophile's version is the best.
Just kissing the clouds with the brush works well and just stay away from the trees. It's quite normal to have very white sky.
Terry ! what's that? not even the correct perspective on the clouds.
Tel,
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Blackburn Lancashire
this is my first attempt at a split raw conversion in elements 7 ,had to erase the burned out sky with the eraser tool ,but when i came near the trees they darkened quite badly so kept away from them . apart from using a smaller brush to navigate around the trees is there an easier way ? tim.