Sorry Pentax - Switching to Nikon
Posted 18/09/2012 - 08:48
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Cabstar wrote: [quote:"]As for focus points nearly all the top studio photographers use centre point and decompose!
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I'm not a top studio photographer but that's the only way I ever focus no matter what type of subject I'm shooting. For me its a quicker and less cumbersome way of doing it.
David
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I'm not a top studio photographer but that's the only way I ever focus no matter what type of subject I'm shooting. For me its a quicker and less cumbersome way of doing it.
David
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Posted 18/09/2012 - 10:03
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cabstar wrote:
...the top studio photographers use centre point and decompose!.
...the top studio photographers use centre point and decompose!.
Should read recompose I suppose although very old photographers (like me) do eventually decompose no doubt
Posted 18/09/2012 - 10:12
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wzorektom wrote:
It's the Nikon's ability to catch moving objects that I like, but I am talking about equipment that costs substantially more than the K-5 and if and when Pentax launch an FF camera the only response will be cries of protest because it's too expensive....ilovesaabs wrote:
Same here Mike....
D3 or K-5/K20D - simple choice really.....when it's fast action stuff the D3 is the default camera...otherwise I pick up the Pentax - my kit excelled itself during the Pentax camera...whether it was the K-5 or K20D the images have a sort of va va voom quality which is quite compelling, the Nikon just feels cold....
I'm just looking forward to hearing what faults the 6D and D600 come shipped with.....oh hang on only Pentax have faults don't they?
Grass ain't always greener....
So the other way is to get the other brand camera for certain purpose like sport photography, fast moving objects or wildlife ?Same here Mike....
D3 or K-5/K20D - simple choice really.....when it's fast action stuff the D3 is the default camera...otherwise I pick up the Pentax - my kit excelled itself during the Pentax camera...whether it was the K-5 or K20D the images have a sort of va va voom quality which is quite compelling, the Nikon just feels cold....
I'm just looking forward to hearing what faults the 6D and D600 come shipped with.....oh hang on only Pentax have faults don't they?
Grass ain't always greener....
I love the Pentax for what it can do, which actually applies to 90+% of my photography. The K-5 cannot be compared to a D7K or D90, it's a much better camera, and I had to laugh when I saw images of the D600 with it's scene modes....
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Posted 18/09/2012 - 10:58
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It's deja vu all over again.....
Unless you're shooting action I don't see any point in changing systems. I had to laugh when I told an old pro I met in Melbourne recently that the AF on my K5 wasn't working (thanks to Johnsons for fixing the lens release and returning a manual focus camera). His answer was "Aw, diddums". He shoots all his studio work using manual focus and home-made lighting set-ups. His newest camera was an Olympus E510.
A large section of the photographic community seems to have been brainwashed into thinking they must have the latest kit, with all the latest gizmos. Yet some pros are quietly carrying on with kit that most amateurs would consider obsolete.
Unless you're shooting action I don't see any point in changing systems. I had to laugh when I told an old pro I met in Melbourne recently that the AF on my K5 wasn't working (thanks to Johnsons for fixing the lens release and returning a manual focus camera). His answer was "Aw, diddums". He shoots all his studio work using manual focus and home-made lighting set-ups. His newest camera was an Olympus E510.
A large section of the photographic community seems to have been brainwashed into thinking they must have the latest kit, with all the latest gizmos. Yet some pros are quietly carrying on with kit that most amateurs would consider obsolete.
Posted 18/09/2012 - 11:38
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Hey
Thanks all of you for help in taking decision. All of you are right, I'm an amatour photographer and the K5 is even to much for me so there is no point to complain.
Thanks again.
Thanks all of you for help in taking decision. All of you are right, I'm an amatour photographer and the K5 is even to much for me so there is no point to complain.
Thanks again.
Posted 18/09/2012 - 11:40
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geordie01 wrote:
The grass may be greener on the other side but it still needs cutting.
Must remember that expression The grass may be greener on the other side but it still needs cutting.
Looking forward to a big lottery win so I can buy them ALL then decide for my self.
Is there an Aladdin's Cave of Pentax gear to visit, like the apparent one for N users featured in the mags (G of Westminster)
Posted 18/09/2012 - 11:59
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wzorektom wrote:
Hey
Thanks all of you for help in taking decision. All of you are right, I'm an amatour photographer and the K5 is even to much for me so there is no point to complain.
Thanks again.
Your too late, most of the complaints were lodged when the K5 was launched. The K5 II will be what the K5 should have been two years ago. At least Pentax will get to sell a box full of K5 II's to the faithful.Hey
Thanks all of you for help in taking decision. All of you are right, I'm an amatour photographer and the K5 is even to much for me so there is no point to complain.
Thanks again.
I won't be buying a D600 with scene modes but I do believe Nikon will sell more of them than Pentax sell K5 II's. Odd how Joe public looks at cameras in a different way to us Pentax users.
Best regards
Too far from a shore.
Posted 18/09/2012 - 13:57
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cabstar wrote:
As for focus points nearly all the top studio photographers use centre point and decompose!
Oo-er mister ! Thank God I'm not into studio portraiture ! And I won't be using centre-point any more either just in case !
As for focus points nearly all the top studio photographers use centre point and decompose!
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Posted 18/09/2012 - 14:01
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K10D wrote:
I won't be buying a D600 with scene modes but I do believe Nikon will sell more of them than Pentax sell K5 II's. Odd how Joe public looks at cameras in a different way to us Pentax users.
OR ... odd how a very deep marketing pocket sells cameras
I won't be buying a D600 with scene modes but I do believe Nikon will sell more of them than Pentax sell K5 II's. Odd how Joe public looks at cameras in a different way to us Pentax users.
http://frogfish.smugmug.com/ Pentax. Pentax DA*300/4, Cosina 55/1.2, Lens Baby Composer Pro & Edge 80, AFA x1.7, Metz 50 af1.
Nikon. D800. D600. Sigma 500/4.5, Nikon 300/2.8 VRII, Sigma 120-300/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 21/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 35/2.0, Sigma 50/1.4, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikon TC20EIII, Nikon TC14EII, Kenko x1.4, Sigma 2.0
Nikon. D800. D600. Sigma 500/4.5, Nikon 300/2.8 VRII, Sigma 120-300/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 21/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 35/2.0, Sigma 50/1.4, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikon TC20EIII, Nikon TC14EII, Kenko x1.4, Sigma 2.0
Posted 18/09/2012 - 14:51
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cabstar wrote:
If pentax doesn't do what you want then change systems. It really is that easy.
The trouble is, it really isn't. I can't afford two systems, I love nearly everything about Pentax, except the AF for aviation shots, which is my favourite type of photography. So my choices are to wait for improved AF... or go insane with frustration trying to take sharp images of fast jets... or sell up and change to C or N, both of which, having tried recently, I dislike quite strongly in terms of ergonomics.If pentax doesn't do what you want then change systems. It really is that easy.
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As for focus points nearly all the top studio photographers use centre point and recompose!
I think the point about multiple small focus points is that they help the AF track (and predict) the position of the subject as they pass across them.As for focus points nearly all the top studio photographers use centre point and recompose!
Also, the central Pentax focus point is notoriously large, and it doesn't follow that the tiny thing at the very centre of the viewfinder is what will be in focus.
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Posted 18/09/2012 - 15:38
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So, does the title of of this thread now need changing?
Posted 18/09/2012 - 15:39
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simonkit wrote:
I don't think there's much argument that the Pentax line-up isn't ideal for everyone, sports/action certainly doesn't seem to be high on the Pentax list...I don't blame anyone for moving if the system doesn't meet their needs, forget sentimentality etc it's simply a tool for the job and if it isn't up to it then move on.
Now having said that I do think Pentax cameras are really excellent tools for landscape photography, I have the impression that the K series was developed with this in mind: I'll definitely be sticking with my K5.
Simon
I'll be honest, I haven't read the entire thread, but I did pick up on this.I don't think there's much argument that the Pentax line-up isn't ideal for everyone, sports/action certainly doesn't seem to be high on the Pentax list...I don't blame anyone for moving if the system doesn't meet their needs, forget sentimentality etc it's simply a tool for the job and if it isn't up to it then move on.
Now having said that I do think Pentax cameras are really excellent tools for landscape photography, I have the impression that the K series was developed with this in mind: I'll definitely be sticking with my K5.
Simon
As a landscape photographer who I admire, I have to default to your greater knowledge, but then, I look at simonarron(?) F1 shots and they certainly stand up to anything I've seen elsewhere, and those cars a moving pretty swiftly.
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Posted 18/09/2012 - 16:53
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Father Ted wrote:
As a landscape photographer who I admire, I have to default to your greater knowledge, but then, I look at simonarron(?) F1 shots and they certainly stand up to anything I've seen elsewhere, and those cars a moving pretty swiftly.
They're moving predicatably though. Try a bird. I failed miserably trying to catch a cuckoo in flight a couple of weeks ago. I was with users of both the Canon (7D) and the Nikon (D300s). Both managed it with ease.
simonkit wrote:
I don't think there's much argument that the Pentax line-up isn't ideal for everyone, sports/action certainly doesn't seem to be high on the Pentax list...I don't blame anyone for moving if the system doesn't meet their needs, forget sentimentality etc it's simply a tool for the job and if it isn't up to it then move on.
Now having said that I do think Pentax cameras are really excellent tools for landscape photography, I have the impression that the K series was developed with this in mind: I'll definitely be sticking with my K5.
Simon
I'll be honest, I haven't read the entire thread, but I did pick up on this.I don't think there's much argument that the Pentax line-up isn't ideal for everyone, sports/action certainly doesn't seem to be high on the Pentax list...I don't blame anyone for moving if the system doesn't meet their needs, forget sentimentality etc it's simply a tool for the job and if it isn't up to it then move on.
Now having said that I do think Pentax cameras are really excellent tools for landscape photography, I have the impression that the K series was developed with this in mind: I'll definitely be sticking with my K5.
Simon
As a landscape photographer who I admire, I have to default to your greater knowledge, but then, I look at simonarron(?) F1 shots and they certainly stand up to anything I've seen elsewhere, and those cars a moving pretty swiftly.
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Yet another boring negative post full of regret. If pentax doesn't do what you want then change systems.
It really is that easy. Me im looking forward to the new k-5.
As for focus points nearly all the top studio photographers use centre point and decompose!
Good luck if you do swap systems, but the grass is not always greener.
I shoot plenty of variety, commercially too, flash/studio/field and none of your points have stopped me I rarely had a problem with the original *ist-D, but the K-5 constantly exceeds my expectations for IQ and usability (and I've used other systems too).
I'm looking forward to the K-5 Mark 2
You pays yer money and makes yer choices...
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