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thoughton
Posted 04/03/2010 - 13:12 Link
bwichmawr wrote:
On a totally random note: have you ever been to/photographed Petra? There was a programme on about it last night. It was (O.K. iust about still is) on my "to do" list before I shuffle off. Think I'd rather go there than Karnak.
Back when she was in her early 20s my wife once snuck into the Petra complex before dawn, and watched the sun come up and illuminate the city fascia. To this day she still says it was one of the greatest moments of her life.

I've never been, and rather annoyingly she now doesn't want to go back and spoil her memories of it.
Tim
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bwlchmawr
Posted 04/03/2010 - 16:30 Link
Oh Time... sounds like a wonderful memory. I wonder if it's nightmarishly touristy these days? Hard to imagine it being as busy as, say, the Valley of the Kings.

A.
Best wishes,

Andrew

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thoughton
Posted 04/03/2010 - 17:00 Link
From what I understand it was quite touristy even back then (we're talking 20 years ago). That's why she snuck in before dawn, to get the full effect without the other tourists (and to see the sunrise of course). I can't remember how she got in, I think they (her and a girlfriend) found a gap under a chainlink fence - which in itself suggests it must be quite touristy.
Tim
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Edited by thoughton: 04/03/2010 - 17:00
womble
Posted 04/03/2010 - 18:02 Link
Sadly I have never been. There are lots of places I want to visit in the eastern Med but have never had the chance (Palmyra, Krak de Chevalier etc.)

Lawrence of Arabia did his undergraduate dissertation on Crusader Castles and visited many of them, on foot, carrying a half plate camera and a tripod. His photographs were so good that Oxford gave him his dissertation back (not usual) and it was published in the mid 80s.

Best wishes, Kris.
Kris Lockyear
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bwlchmawr
Posted 04/03/2010 - 18:27 Link
Now that's what I call dedication to the photographic arts... I didn't know Lawrence was into photography just Vincent Black Shadows and blowing-up trains!

(Makes me ashamed to think of the times I've clipped my compact to my belt because I couldn't be bothered to carry the SLR!)

Regards,

Andrew
Best wishes,

Andrew

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Robert Adams
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womble
Posted 04/03/2010 - 18:27 Link
Well he did have a masochistic streak...

K.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
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womble
Posted 04/03/2010 - 23:25 Link
I have had a go at scanning the negative myself. I can get a much large version than the commercial scans, and perhaps more contrast and tonal range. Best wishes, Kris.

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Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Dr. Mhuni
Posted 05/03/2010 - 01:30 Link
thoughton wrote:
From what I understand it was quite touristy even back then (we're talking 20 years ago). That's why she snuck in before dawn, to get the full effect without the other tourists (and to see the sunrise of course). I can't remember how she got in, I think they (her and a girlfriend) found a gap under a chainlink fence - which in itself suggests it must be quite touristy.
If it was twenty years ago, I don't think it was touristy at all. I went in 1991. Admittedly it was in October, so hardly peak season. But we only came across one other group of tourists during the whole day we were wandering about the valley. Having spoken to people who have been recently, it seems to have changed a lot - inevitably, I guess, as it's a truly spectacular place. There was only one large (empty) hotel when we were there. Now there are several full ones.

Just to make you green Kris - after Petra we moved on to Palmyra and Krak des Chevaliers! We'd been backpacking in Africa and were making our way back to the UK through the Middle East and Eastern Europe. Arrived back in Dover two days before Christmas, 1991. Happy memories.
Mhuni

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thoughton
Posted 05/03/2010 - 01:47 Link
The million dollar question now is did you take a camera?

Regarding the touristy-ness I've probably misremembered her tale. I don't know exactly when she went either, but knowing when she finished university plus some counting on my fingers it was somewhere between 1992 and 94.
Tim
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Dr. Mhuni
Posted 05/03/2010 - 02:10 Link
thoughton wrote:
The million dollar question now is did you take a camera?
Yes, but it was a diminutive Konica point and shoot. The slides are buried in a box somewhere in my Mum's garage!
Mhuni

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Dr. Mhuni
Posted 05/03/2010 - 02:10 Link
Btw, do you ever sleep Tim:wink!
Mhuni

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Edited by Dr. Mhuni: 05/03/2010 - 02:11
thoughton
Posted 05/03/2010 - 02:14 Link
Just got back from the pub *hic*
Tim
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Dr. Mhuni
Posted 05/03/2010 - 04:16 Link
Blimey, what time does your local close?!
Mhuni

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thoughton
Posted 05/03/2010 - 08:19 Link
10:30!! Followed by a rather long lock-in
Tim
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womble
Posted 05/03/2010 - 17:41 Link
bwichmawr wrote:
Dr. Mhuni wrote:
Kris, did you have a digital body with you that day? Would be very interesting to see any shots you took with that if so, as a point of comparison.
What a brilliant idea! Can you recall during the early days of digital, AP and other publications carrying out direct film vs. digital comparisons? (Often to the detriment of digital at the time!) Nobody, to my knowledge has done this for a while. certainly not since cameras like the K10 were introduced.

Would make a most intersting weekend for somebody, particularly if an identical lens could be used...

Regards,

Andrew
Sorry folks, I must have left the digital at home that day. I'll be back there in the summer and can take some more then Perhaps I should take the Horseman...

K.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.

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