Snow-capped Snowdon mon conversion


simonkit

Link Posted 17/01/2013 - 09:01
Following on from my last post I've just converted this photograph of a snow-capped Snowdon to mono and would appreciate feedback

Thanks

Simon



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AndrewA

Link Posted 17/01/2013 - 18:04
Well, it works for me Simon!
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simonkit

Link Posted 17/01/2013 - 19:04
AndrewA wrote:
Well, it works for me Simon!

Thanks Andrew, it's another attempted rescue really as the colour version just doesn't work at all in the flat lighting

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AlJones2402

Link Posted 17/01/2013 - 21:14
Very nice

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Link Posted 17/01/2013 - 21:19
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Northgrain

Link Posted 17/01/2013 - 22:05
Sorry Simon. Not sure this works for me

Your other various colour images from Llynnau Mymbyr are so very strong, this does not have the same impact - there seems to be less definition across the frame. Just my view though, and 'tothers clearly think differently
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Stuey

Link Posted 17/01/2013 - 22:12
I like it
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simonkit

Link Posted 17/01/2013 - 22:19
Thanks everyone & no problem Tim, no harm in a bit of balanced feedback

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jeeess1967

Link Posted 18/01/2013 - 10:31
Hi simon,

Sorry, it doesn't work for me too. Would have liked to see the colour version. Sorry again!

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bforbes

Link Posted 18/01/2013 - 10:56
I have not seen the colour version so can't make a comparison. What I find with the B&W is, the reflections are brighter than the mountain, so you don't follow the image through. May be there is not the definition between mountain and sky? I do like the composition though.
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Blythman

Link Posted 18/01/2013 - 10:59
Not keen on this one Simon, but couldn't work out why.

bforbes wrote:
I have not seen the colour version so can't make a comparison. What I find with the B&W is, the reflections are brighter than the mountain, so you don't follow the image through. May be there is not the definition between mountain and sky? I do like the composition though.

Good analysis Barrie
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DrOrloff

Link Posted 18/01/2013 - 11:31
I think the composition is really excellent. But the image doesn't really work for me either. The two problems for me are the sky and the brightness of the reflection. Was a grad perhaps used on the sky and so the reflected sky much brighter?

The sky is not a good b&w sky. The tonal range in the sky doesn't contrast enough with the mountains and they don't stand out enough. The tones in the reflected sky adjacent to the ice match the tones of the ice so the same happens in the midground. The bright tones in the reflection are clipped and draw the into the centre of the image. So I think that conspires against the composition. I think the overall effect could be improved with some judicious dodging/burning and also reducing/increasing detail in some areas to boost contrast between the elements of the scene. It all boils down to a bit of luck with the sky and I agree that colourmight look better.
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simonkit

Link Posted 18/01/2013 - 12:30
Thanks everyone for the detailed feedback, helpful as always. I'm 100% certain that the colour version doesn't work so have had another go at the B&W conversion...I've updated the original post with the new one, any better for anyone?

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johnriley

Link Posted 18/01/2013 - 13:10
We would be able to tell better Simon if you'de left the original there and posted a new version. Then they could be compared as the image evolves maybe even to a third version.
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WobblyGoblin

Link Posted 18/01/2013 - 14:30
I find the ice cracks in the foreground very interesting but I'm not sure about the background setting. Maybe the mountain doesn't stand out from the sky enough. Is the contrast a bit high?

To me the hills between the mountain and the foreground are what jumps out and therefore you maybe lose a bit of the depth.

Having said that I am nitpicking and like the picture.
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