Shutter and lens noise ??

petekd
Posted 29/07/2007 - 22:01 Link
I was looking for the thread labelled what you want from Pentax on future models but am buggered if I can find it. Anyway :

What I would like is a quieter shutter (mirror) as when I did my shots in the church during the ceremony I was around 30 feet from the alter and was very conscious of the shutter slapping away. Why is our beloved K10D so loud compared to other brands.

Lens are noisy to but when the new DA's come that will eliminate that problem at least for those who can afford them

On a serious note why is the shutter so load, surely not good for discreet shots or wildlife ??? Any thoughts folks

Pete
Wedding & Portrait photographer
johnriley
Posted 29/07/2007 - 22:06 Link
It's more the mirror merchanism rather than the shutter. Focal plane shutters are very, very quiet, as Leica rangefinder users will attest.

Is it louder than any other DSLR?
Best regards, John
Don
Posted 29/07/2007 - 22:23 Link
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Why is our beloved K10D so loud compared to other brands
Everything slr, in it's class and/or it's price range is gonna be about the same.
A compact or evf will be much quieter.

that's why I have Both!

my g5 and Pro one work quiety. Use in good light, and will focus in no light, my slrs work (if you know what you're doing)for everything!
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Guilhem
Posted 30/07/2007 - 03:14 Link
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I was looking for the thread labelled what you want from Pentax on future models but am buggered if I can find it.
Pete
this be it? https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5015

I hear you about the operating noise though, when handling a powered up K10D in a shop a few weeks ago I was quite taken aback by the AF motor alone (though the mirror slap didnt sound any worse than other SLRs I've handled).

Compared to my aging EOS 300 with kit lens it is surprisingly noisy, I felt
Rodger Fooks
Posted 30/07/2007 - 10:09 Link
I bought a ME Super many years ago and that had a very quiet mirror mechanism.

Makes me wonder why if they could make one that quiet so long ago why can't they do it now?

In saying that I do a lot of wildlife photography and only once have I found the shutter distracted the wildlife. But Pete's right in churches, musems (where photography is allowed) the noise of the mirror is distracting

My real problem with it is that my wife takes video at the same time, when I edit the movie at home all I can hear is click, click, click AHHH!
Old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read.
Don
Posted 30/07/2007 - 12:10 Link
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My real problem with it is that my wife takes video at the same time, when I edit the movie at home all I can hear is click, click, click AHHH!
I use the "Clicks" (and the flash pops) to help line up and synch the audio from video camera a to video camera b, in final cut express.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Rodger Fooks
Posted 30/07/2007 - 12:35 Link
I always use a single fire of the flash to allign two camera inputs but the clicks are a real annoyance as I have to remove them with Audition.

With often 50 - 100 shutter clicks in a 20 min video its a real pain in the A&*e

Has anybody ever tried building a home made buffer for the mirror?
Old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read.
Guilhem
Posted 30/07/2007 - 13:33 Link
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Has anybody ever tried building a home made buffer for the mirror?
Sounds like a mod too far. A recipe for catastrophe, I wouldn't mess with the shutter/mirror mechanism.

Unless i misunderstand - do you mean something other than physically dampening the mirror action?
Don
Posted 30/07/2007 - 13:58 Link
I think you're limited to trying an underwater housing...or building a soundproof box (heard that's been done for tv/movie set photography).

I know what you mean though...Gerri works fairly close to the wedding party...I try to use my g5 and pro one as i work near the video cams, and keep my video cams far back in the room, with wireless lave mics and rode video mics....
the lavs don't pick up the clicks so much.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Rodger Fooks
Posted 30/07/2007 - 14:55 Link
Thanks Don
I'll give Lave's a shot
Old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read.
Don
Posted 30/07/2007 - 15:01 Link
I use sonys but I hear these are better!
at the very least, mic the groom...best to mic everybody, or tap into the "House" system if you can.
http://www.azdencorp.com/shop/customer/home.php

http://www.videomaker.com/forums/
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Duncan knifton
Posted 01/08/2007 - 01:14 Link
I've noticed how loud the K10D is in a Church whilst doinga Wedding....thats why when ever I go into one now, I use the *istD...
By far a lot quieter....and sounds like a "real" camera (ie film)...

Not sure why they didn't keep the shutter the same in newer models.
From the *istDs onwards its got louder? Wierd
K20D. fab camera
K10 (brilliant Digital)
MZ-S (brilliant film camera, still use it for B&W)
Pwynnej
Posted 01/08/2007 - 08:01 Link
We had this discussion a few weeks ago as I was speaking to my GF and her sister (GX-10 and 300D owners respectively). They thought there was something wrong with the GX-10 as it was louder than the 300D

.. we were speaking on the telephone by the way.......

compared it with my K10, that and the GX-10 were the same....

But then I fired off a few frames on my Z-1p...that puts things into perspective And yes, the *ist D is more subtle than the K10D

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