shooting indoors


sandie0099

Link Posted 24/06/2008 - 09:45
hi from sanderscapes.com does anyone know the best settings for shooting indoors i.e living rooms etc i am quite new to the pentax k10 i moved over from canon yuk! .At the moment i am using TAv mode which automaticaly adjusts the iso i set a range from 100 to 320 .i just wondered if anyone knew of any better settings to use such as a standard indoor aperture maybe say f8.I find myself having to take a couple of test shots then adjust the camera accordingly before taking the final shots by which time my kids have got bored and run off .Thanks for any help
sanderscapes.com
Pentax k10d + battery grip
sigma 10-20mm
sigma 50mm 1:1 macro with x2 teleconverter
Tamron 17-35mm
Tamron 70-300mm 1:2 macro
Tokina 28-70mm 1:3 macro
Canon ix4000 A3+ photolab printer

hefty1

Link Posted 24/06/2008 - 10:07
"Shooting indoors" can cover a multitude of sins; are you trying to capture the room itself (estate agent style) or are you trying to capture action within it? The former really calls for a wide angle lens, a tripod and a small aperture; the latter probably a mid-range zoom and a fast-ish shutter speed - preferably with flash.

You'll have to be a bit more specific about what you're trying to achieve.
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iceblinker

Link Posted 24/06/2008 - 10:26
Sandie mentions the kids getting bored, so presumably the kids are in the pictures!

The aperture selection should mainly depend on what depth-of-field you want. F8 will often be smaller than necessary.

When using available light indoors rather than flash, increasing the upper ISO limit to 800 or even 1600 will allow the use of larger apertures and faster shutter speeds. The price of higher noise sometimes will be worth it.

The need for test shots will reduce in frequency as you get better at predicting how much (if any) compensation will be needed.

You could also try exposure bracketing so you can fire off 3 or 5 shots in quick succession. This will increase the chance of a good exposure without your subjects having to hang around long while you experiment.
~Pete

sandie0099

Link Posted 24/06/2008 - 10:48
shots of the kids mainly
i forgot about the exposure bracketing i know i must practice a bit more with different types of photography my landscapes and macro i feel comfortable with having practised loads but i allways left photos of the kids to the wife mainly thanks once again iceblinker..
sanderscapes.com
Pentax k10d + battery grip
sigma 10-20mm
sigma 50mm 1:1 macro with x2 teleconverter
Tamron 17-35mm
Tamron 70-300mm 1:2 macro
Tokina 28-70mm 1:3 macro
Canon ix4000 A3+ photolab printer

Mannesty

Link Posted 24/06/2008 - 15:29
sandie0099 wrote:
shots of the kids mainly
i forgot about the exposure bracketing i know i must practice a bit more with different types of photography my landscapes and macro i feel comfortable with having practised loads but i allways left photos of the kids to the wife mainly thanks once again iceblinker..

Could you leave it a week, then revisit this post? When you do, try and read it with just one breath, because that's how you've written it. There is not one full stop in the whole of the text, yet you've put two at the end ? ? ?

If you'd used capital letters to begin each sentence it might have helped.

Most of us here go to a lot of trouble to help new Pentax users to become better Pentax users. It helps when those seeking advice take the trouble to write carefully, at least carefully enough that we don't spend more time than is necessary to understand the problem.

Thanks & regards,
Peter E Smith

My flickr Photostream

terje-l

Link Posted 24/06/2008 - 15:48
Valid point, Peter.
Best regards
Terry

K20D, Optio I10, DA 18-55 1:3.5-5.6 AL II, A 1:1.7/50, D FA 1:2.8/100 Macro, Sigma 70-300 1:4-5.6 APO DG Macro, Pentax AF 360FGZ

beakynet

Link Posted 24/06/2008 - 17:06
sandie0099 wrote:
hi from sanderscapes.com does anyone know the best settings for shooting indoors i.e living rooms etc i am quite new to the pentax k10 i moved over from canon yuk! .At the moment i am using TAv mode which automaticaly adjusts the iso i set a range from 100 to 320 .i just wondered if anyone knew of any better settings to use such as a standard indoor aperture maybe say f8.I find myself having to take a couple of test shots then adjust the camera accordingly before taking the final shots by which time my kids have got bored and run off .Thanks for any help

Another option is to shoot RAW and then you can push the exposure in post production.

I also use fill in flash (set to slow sync) and that often gives better exposure though I usually do this with a hotshoe mounted flash with a bounce head to soften the light.
Bodies: K5IIs, K7, MZ5n, LX, MV
Lenses: DA*16-50, DA18-55WR, DA18-135, DAL35, M50 F2, A50 f1.4, FA50 f1.4, DA*50-135, DA55-300, Tamron 70-300, DFA 100 WR Macro, M135 f3.5, Sigma 120-400 APO DG HSM, Tokina 500 f8.0
Flash: Metz 58, Metz 48
Accessories: BG4, Pentax right angle finder, Pentax mirror adaptor lens, O-ME53 Viewfinder Loupe
Auto 110 System: Auto 110, Winder, 18mm, 24mm, 50mm, 70mm, 20-40mm, AF100P, 1.7x telecon

sandie0099

Link Posted 24/06/2008 - 22:19
To Manesty Everyone else in the forum seems to want to answer the question asked instead you want to critisize my grammar.Probably wouldnt have been bothered but you never even gave me an answer to the question i asked.In your reply you said you try to help new members i somehow dont see that getting at someone for their grammer and not answering the original question is helping a new pentax member.What if i were dyslexic.You must be really bored. Oh and by the way you put three question marks at the end of one of your sentences whats the difference.
sanderscapes.com
Pentax k10d + battery grip
sigma 10-20mm
sigma 50mm 1:1 macro with x2 teleconverter
Tamron 17-35mm
Tamron 70-300mm 1:2 macro
Tokina 28-70mm 1:3 macro
Canon ix4000 A3+ photolab printer

Mannesty

Link Posted 24/06/2008 - 23:55
Deleted by the author . . .
Peter E Smith

My flickr Photostream

beakynet

Link Posted 25/06/2008 - 00:30
Mannesty wrote:
If you are dyslexic which might cause you to write this way I unreservedly apologise. Are you dyslexic, or just lazy when it comes to writing properly?

Iceblinker already answered your question. What more did you want to know? If you have another question, post it here.

Hints to improve your posts: When a fullstop is used to end a sentence, follow it with a space, new line, or paragraph. Put line breaks in occasionally to make your posts more readable. The first letter of a sentence is always capitalised.

I have to admit that this is bothering me. Sandie0099 is a new member and I, as someone who has received criticism in the past for spelling (I can't spell) and grammar, am uncomfortable to see this type of criticism on this site, which is supposed to be a friendly and welcoming community. I believe we have younger members of age 13 or so on this site - how will this kind of response encourage someone who does not write so 'expertly' to post here?

Can I respectfully ask that if these kinds of comments have to be made that they are done via PM and not in the open forum. Oh and by the way, typing etiquette requires 2 spaces to follow a full stop.
Bodies: K5IIs, K7, MZ5n, LX, MV
Lenses: DA*16-50, DA18-55WR, DA18-135, DAL35, M50 F2, A50 f1.4, FA50 f1.4, DA*50-135, DA55-300, Tamron 70-300, DFA 100 WR Macro, M135 f3.5, Sigma 120-400 APO DG HSM, Tokina 500 f8.0
Flash: Metz 58, Metz 48
Accessories: BG4, Pentax right angle finder, Pentax mirror adaptor lens, O-ME53 Viewfinder Loupe
Auto 110 System: Auto 110, Winder, 18mm, 24mm, 50mm, 70mm, 20-40mm, AF100P, 1.7x telecon

sandie0099

Link Posted 25/06/2008 - 01:21
To Manesty Yes i am dyslexic and i do struggle with grammar quite a bit all i want when i ask a question about a photograhy issue is a straight answer.If i dont use the proper grammar you can still read and understand my question.If this is the type of replies i am going to receive it makes me wonder why i joined the forum. all i want is to talk about photography not my own problems
P.S thanks to beakynet
sanderscapes.com
Pentax k10d + battery grip
sigma 10-20mm
sigma 50mm 1:1 macro with x2 teleconverter
Tamron 17-35mm
Tamron 70-300mm 1:2 macro
Tokina 28-70mm 1:3 macro
Canon ix4000 A3+ photolab printer

MattMatic

Link Posted 25/06/2008 - 06:36
If you're not sure what exposure mode to use indoors... then switch to "P" and choose auto ISO 100-1600.

The camera will choose what it thinks is the best arrangement. You can always override its choice by using the front wheel (for shutter speed), or rear wheel (for aperture). Press the green button to go back to full-camera choice.

Personally, I use another mode - but I'd suggest you start with that and see how it goes
Indoor shots (especially without flash) can be challenging. If you want to get used to it before trying it out on the kids - borrow of one of their soft toys and practise first. Toys don't get bored When you're comfortable and familiar with the camera you can take more natural shots of the kids - keep them interested and engaged by talking to them and having a laugh!

Matt
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
(For gallery, tips and links)

Mannesty

Link Posted 25/06/2008 - 09:01
I can only apologize once more, to you and the other members of the forum who disagree with my responses. I'm very sorry to have upset you.

Thanks for the education.

Kind regards and good luck with your camera,
Peter E Smith

My flickr Photostream

iceblinker

Link Posted 25/06/2008 - 11:28
MattMatic wrote:
If you're not sure what exposure mode to use indoors... then switch to "P" and choose auto ISO 100-1600.

The camera will choose what it thinks is the best arrangement.

I would have suggested that too, except I find the Program can be rather optimistic with the shutter speeds sometimes - when you will need a really steady hand (or the Shake Reduction to really work well, or a tripod!).

Quote:
You can always override its choice by using the front wheel (for shutter speed), or rear wheel (for aperture).

It's a nice feature, but if you override a lot then you might as well use another mode in the first place. The ISO can't be displayed all the time in P; you have to press OK to see it.
~Pete

hugh jass

Link Posted 25/06/2008 - 12:14
Mannesty wrote:
sandie0099 wrote:
shots of the kids mainly
i forgot about the exposure bracketing i know i must practice a bit more with different types of photography my landscapes and macro i feel comfortable with having practised loads but i allways left photos of the kids to the wife mainly thanks once again iceblinker..

Could you leave it a week, then revisit this post? When you do, try and read it with just one breath, because that's how you've written it. There is not one full stop in the whole of the text, yet you've put two at the end ? ? ?

If you'd used capital letters to begin each sentence it might have helped.

Most of us here go to a lot of trouble to help new Pentax users to become better Pentax users. It helps when those seeking advice take the trouble to write carefully, at least carefully enough that we don't spend more time than is necessary to understand the problem.

Thanks & regards,

AND heers mee thinkin Id joined a frendly forim
K20D 16-45
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