shooting indoors

iceblinker
Posted 25/06/2008 - 13:31 Link
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AND heers mee thinkin Id joined a frendly forim
It is usually a polite and friendly forum.

Personally, as long as I can understand someone, I would be no more inclined to complain about their writing style as I would about the size of their backside, Hugh
~Pete
johnriley
Posted 25/06/2008 - 14:17 Link
Yes, friendly is the word.

If we stick to talking photography we won't go far wrong. Just bear in mind that not everyone will be a native English speaker either so as long as we all understand each other there shouldn't be a problem.

Best regards, John
George Lazarette
Posted 25/06/2008 - 23:13 Link
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I can only apologize once more, to you and the other members of the forum who disagree with my responses. I'm very sorry to have upset you.

Thanks for the education.

Kind regards and good luck with your camera,
One of the things that marks this forum out is that people take the trouble to write properly. It is a form of courtesy, and makes messages easier to read.

Whatever her capabilities, I hope the OP will do her best to write as well as she can.

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
bigcog
Posted 27/06/2008 - 12:59 Link
Well Sandie I hope you are still there and reading the helpful comments posted on this thread. You sound like you are trying to achieve the same as me, something not easy to do perfect, and that is indoor low light pictures of children that don't keep still unless you bribe them with sweets! Matt has put some helpful comments on. I can only echo them from my limited experience so far.

Green mode, see what the camera is going to cope with. Unlikely to be enough. So switch to P, put the ISO up and then see if you can achieve an aperture and shutter speed that works. This will be trial and error but I have taken shots I am very happy with of the kids with ISO at 800, shutter of 180 and aperture of 2.4, but then that was on a 50mm lens. On the kit lens you can't get the aperture as low as that so you need a good amount of light or push the ISO to 1600. Personally so far my impression of pics at ISO 1600 is they are too noisy for me. But if that is the best setting to get good enough results then go for it. Also I have found that skin tones are not right unless you set manual white balance, see the manual for that, it works well and only takes a minute. I have not used the pop-up flash much as it washes out skin tones. i've just bought a popup flash diffuser online and can post back results later.
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ChrisA
Posted 27/06/2008 - 13:45 Link
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AND heers mee thinkin Id joined a frendly forim
It's astonishingly friendly, in fact, if you take into account the lengths a lot of the people here go to, to answer questions that are often extremely vague.

If a dyslexic 13 year old kid was to turn up here, with no experience of photography, nor any understanding of how much more likely one is to get a question answered clearly, if the question itself is specific and clear, it would be one thing. And in such a case, doubtless we would, as usual, bend over backwards to be helpful.

However, Mr Sanderson is marketing himself as a professional photographer, and as such, will discover sooner or later, that dyslexic or not, presenting himself clearly and marketably will be of paramount importance in becoming successful.

I have several years of (informal, not professional) experience, teaching Maths and Physics to dyslexic children of various ages. As you can imagine, for them to learn to conceptualise, and then articulate in writing, abstract semantic constructs can sometimes be difficult.

If there is one thing that contributes to their eventual success, it is the realisation that:

- people's ability to compensate for their disability is limited, and therefore
- they simply have to put in the additional effort required to learn to do what is hard for them.

Once they grasp this, and redouble their efforts, it is remarkable what they can achieve.
Don
Posted 27/06/2008 - 14:41 Link
In fact, I find people are very tolerant of me, and I can really test peoples patience.

I also have learning disabilities.
I'm dyslexic.
I have discalculia.
I have a add.
I have been told (when originally tested there was little family background to go on, but now that I have one Autistic son, and one adhd son) I should get retested for Aspbergers.
my brain is wired to see most language and thought issues in black and white, with very little grey.....("Can you pass the salt" gets answered with a "yes", but probably no salt. "Please pass me the salt" gets you handed a saltshaker).
My spelling is bad, my math worse. I repeat myself, and sometimes stutter(not when i'm typing).

I paid a hell of a price for it in school, and wound up homeless and with a gr 8 education, as a teen.


Last thing I'd want is pity. Worst thing is being treated differently.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
George Lazarette
Posted 27/06/2008 - 19:49 Link
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In fact, I find people are very tolerant of me, and I can really test peoples patience.

I also have learning disabilities.
I'm dyslexic.
I have discalculia.
I have a add.
I have been told (when originally tested there was little family background to go on, but now that I have one Autistic son, and one adhd son) I should get retested for Aspbergers.
my brain is wired to see most language and thought issues in black and white, with very little grey.....("Can you pass the salt" gets answered with a "yes", but probably no salt. "Please pass me the salt" gets you handed a saltshaker).
My spelling is bad, my math worse. I repeat myself, and sometimes stutter(not when i'm typing).

I paid a hell of a price for it in school, and wound up homeless and with a gr 8 education, as a teen.

Last thing I'd want is pity. Worst thing is being treated differently.
I think Don, that you make Chris's point perfectly.

Despite your problems, you manage to use paragraphs, commas, initial capitals, generally correct spelling, etc..

It can be done, with a little effort. And the effort is appreciated.

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
Don
Posted 27/06/2008 - 20:25 Link
actually George it's alot of effort.
I practice everyday, I work from home, on my own schedual.
this forum, is where I can pop in, type a sentacne or three, between photo/video shoots/editing, and meeting family demands.
If I had a regular job, my skills would deteriorate quite quickly, and I'd be back to (possibly) being ridiculed.
Do you remember how bad my notes were a few years back when I first started?
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
George Lazarette
Posted 27/06/2008 - 22:16 Link
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actually George it's alot of effort.
I practice everyday, I work from home, on my own schedual.
this forum, is where I can pop in, type a sentacne or three, between photo/video shoots/editing, and meeting family demands.
If I had a regular job, my skills would deteriorate quite quickly, and I'd be back to (possibly) being ridiculed.
Do you remember how bad my notes were a few years back when I first started?
Yes, I do remember. I didn't mean to diminish your efforts; I was using a literary device called "British understatement"!

Cheers

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
ChrisA
Posted 27/06/2008 - 22:25 Link
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Last thing I'd want is pity. Worst thing is being treated differently.
The thing is, Don, you take the trouble.

It comes over unmistakeably.

Amongst other things, not least your obvious engineering skills, it's why you deservedly command respect.

We might cross swords, you and I, we might disagree, we might misunderstand one another once in a while.

But you contribute, you consider, you think, you argue, and your passion comes across. And for 'you', I trust I could write 'we', and thereby include others of like mind.
pentaxian450
Posted 27/06/2008 - 23:50 Link
In answer to Don, I understand the difficulties you have with communication, but on the other hand there are a lot of different disabilities that make it even more challenging at communicating. My wife is dyslexic AND has cerebral palsy, which makes it almost impossible for her to communicate properly when writing. Most of the time,she will ask me to write for her because so many people have laughed at her in the past. Not all disabilities can be overcome. I'm not trying to discredit your efforts, actually I admire you for all the work you have to go through with communications, but for some people the challenge is just to big. Here is a link for a picture of my wife with her helping dog:
www.picasaweb.google.ca/pentaxian450/Wendy
Don
Posted 28/06/2008 - 03:02 Link
I don't feel like anybody has tried to diminish me in any way here.
I just hope that through sharing, that the other poster, and those that felt this forum was less than friendly, would not be discouraged, from posting. Even the post that caused some offence, was made by a really nice guy who always tries to help people.....and he apologised....just shows this IS a NICE forum!

I totally admire your devotion to your wife. and I understand why you do it.
At home, with my ex, my autistic son often gets locked in his room, as they find it easier to cope with him that way. He as always left behind, with a sitter.
when he's with me....he goes where I go.
well one time, when we were in Banff, we went hiking up some trails, to the mountian peaks. He decided he didn't like the feel of the soil there (he wouldn't wear shoes). I picked him up and carried him the whole way.
He was ten years old. when his speach got better, he was able to describe in incredible detial every moment, of that hike.... and every other thing we did with him.
ps... is that wheelchair an everest & jennings? looks an awful lot like the doner chair that is now my robot. one day soon those chairs will be intelligent.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
George Lazarette
Posted 28/06/2008 - 08:46 Link
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I don't feel like anybody has tried to diminish me in any way here.
I just hope that through sharing, that the other poster, and those that felt this forum was less than friendly, would not be discouraged, from posting. Even the post that caused some offence, was made by a really nice guy who always tries to help people.....and he apologised....just shows this IS a NICE forum!

I totally admire your devotion to your wife. and I understand why you do it.
At home, with my ex, my autistic son often gets locked in his room, as they find it easier to cope with him that way. He as always left behind, with a sitter.
when he's with me....he goes where I go.
well one time, when we were in Banff, we went hiking up some trails, to the mountian peaks. He decided he didn't like the feel of the soil there (he wouldn't wear shoes). I picked him up and carried him the whole way.
He was ten years old. when his speach got better, he was able to describe in incredible detial every moment, of that hike.... and every other thing we did with him.
ps... is that wheelchair an everest & jennings? looks an awful lot like the doner chair that is now my robot. one day soon those chairs will be intelligent.
I'm sure they will, but I hope there'll still be a role for the dog.

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
Don
Posted 28/06/2008 - 10:28 Link
I think monitoring vital signs, communicating with other computers, (esp in emergencies) autonomous travel (ie ability to navigate a home/hospital/neighbourhood to help a person carry out routine jobs/activities). robotic lifts/arms to make mobility issues easier to live with) and comunications for family/doctors/careproviders, to monitor (telepresence) the user with the robotic chair. over the net.. Won't put any dogs out of a job....it will just add to what the dog does.....
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
pentaxian450
Posted 28/06/2008 - 11:34 Link
Hi, Don and George.
Robots are nice for a lot of things, but the dog is a friend. He's always there when I can't be around, and he's always ready to listen. Sometimes, I think he is more important than me
To answer your question George, the chair is an Invacare. Everest & Jennings went bankrupt a few years ago. If you want to see an amazing piece of technology where wheelchairs are concerned, go on "You Tube" and search "iBot 4000". You'll be amazed!!!

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