Remote Image viewing


barkin

Link Posted 19/03/2021 - 09:13
StepheninRammy wrote:
barkin wrote:
Ah, I see. What connections does the tablet have?

I've not got one yet!

Righty-ho. Modern tablets ain't my thing, but I guess (corrections welcome...!) that even one with an HDMI port would only be an output (for connecting to a TV/monitor) rather than an input, and would need an HDMI capture device/dongle to connect to the tablet USB port? But I'm really only guessing...

In your position, as you already have a Flu card, I'd give that a go and see how it works for you.

Lubbyman

Link Posted 19/03/2021 - 09:25
RobL wrote:
We are slightly off topic here with the Image Synch app but I am a bit confused by your remote focusing issue, using an iPad I can touch anywhere on the screen and the camera will focus there.

Rob - I think the issue here is the speed of focus with a Flucard, it is a bit slow. OK for static subjects but not for wildlife etc.

Steve

Lubbyman

Link Posted 19/03/2021 - 09:27
StepheninRammy wrote:
StepheninRammy wrote:
Quote:
If you just want to see what the camera is seeing and not control it remotely, an alternative is via HDMI cable. I do this for table-top macro, with a K3 attached to a Windows tablet. Aperture etc. set via the camera, shutter fired by wireless trigger.

Steve

Thanks Steve, I have a long enough lead to operate the shutter by wire, HDMI is an option I just want to see what the camera is seeing.

What connection is needed at the tablet?

I do it via a USB connection and an 'HDMI video capture card'. The 'card' takes HDMI input and converts it to USB, costs about 20 from Amazon. So the chain from camera to tablet is HDMI cable from camera to video capture card (micro-HDMI plug at camera end, standard HDMI at the other), video capture card has standard USB plug that goes into socket on tablet.

Suitable software is needed to view the image. Basically, the camera is just like a webcam as far as the tablet is concerned, so any software for viewing webcams should be OK (may already have it on the tablet). I use OBS Studio (free, runs on Windows, MacOS and Linux) but only because I already had it for other purposes.

One thing to be aware of. If the tablet has an HDMI socket, it is probably only for outputting an HDMI signal to another device, not for HDMI input. Hence input via USB.

Be sure to get the right cables - there are many different species of HDMI and USB sockets and plugs. Anyone going down the road of joining electronics together by cable ends up with a drawer full of cables and adapters, all of them different!

Hope that helps.

Steve

Lubbyman

Link Posted 19/03/2021 - 09:36
If you're going to buy a tablet just for this, another option is to buy a field monitor instead. These do exactly what you want, they take HDMI input direct from camera and show the image on a screen. Cheaper, but of course you don't get any of the computing functions of a tablet, so no browsing Pentax User (or watching Netflix) during a break from taking pictures!

Steve

StepheninRammy

Link Posted 20/03/2021 - 00:02
RobL wrote:
davidwozhere wrote:
I had a flucard. I put it in my K3ii and stupidly connected it to my desktop computer. It took a lot of sweating and cursing to regain control of it. It's an abomination of a thing! The one with the K1 does use image synch and works reasonably well with my Samsung mobile. It's very crude however in comparison to simply using the camera conventionally. Set it up to ambush some poor bird or squirrel and you're away but trying to focus on a non centered area where the beast turns up unexpectedly .... ?

We are slightly off topic here with the Image Synch app but I am a bit confused by your remote focusing issue, using an iPad I can touch anywhere on the screen and the camera will focus there.

Is it only ipads which do this?

JohnX

Link Posted 20/03/2021 - 08:26
StepheninRammy wrote:
barkin wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean. The Flu card makes the camera accessible via wi-fi, from a browser running on the tablet.
The Flu card provides the interface to do what you want, running in a web browser.

It's not quite as 'slick' as some modern remote wi-fi implementations, but it does work. For me, at least..

It's all in the manual...

Sorry, I meant using a cable to connect just so I can view what the camera sees, It's all I need.

Operates via WiFi and a browser. Can't immediately remember which browsers are supported, do make sure you install the right one. Choice of 2?

I went for field monitor in the end, but note that what you see on an external monitor is what you see on the camera's rear screen, ie it's not a clean hdmi output.
Last Edited by JohnX on 20/03/2021 - 08:29

StepheninRammy

Link Posted 20/03/2021 - 21:52
Lubbyman wrote:
StepheninRammy wrote:
Quote:
[quote:3496ace15f="Lubbyman"]If you just want to see what the camera is seeing and not control it remotely, an alternative is via HDMI cable. I do this for table-top macro, with a K3 attached to a Windows tablet. Aperture etc. set via the camera, shutter fired by wireless trigger.

Steve

Thanks Steve, I have a long enough lead to operate the shutter by wire, HDMI is an option I just want to see what the camera is seeing.

What connection is needed at the tablet?

I do it via a USB connection and an 'HDMI video capture card'. The 'card' takes HDMI input and converts it to USB, costs about 20 from Amazon. So the chain from camera to tablet is HDMI cable from camera to video capture card (micro-HDMI plug at camera end, standard HDMI at the other), video capture card has standard USB plug that goes into socket on tablet.

Suitable software is needed to view the image. Basically, the camera is just like a webcam as far as the tablet is concerned, so any software for viewing webcams should be OK (may already have it on the tablet). I use OBS Studio (free, runs on Windows, MacOS and Linux) but only because I already had it for other purposes.

One thing to be aware of. If the tablet has an HDMI socket, it is probably only for outputting an HDMI signal to another device, not for HDMI input. Hence input via USB.

Be sure to get the right cables - there are many different species of HDMI and USB sockets and plugs. Anyone going down the road of joining electronics together by cable ends up with a drawer full of cables and adapters, all of them different!

Hope that helps.

Steve[/quote That does help a lot, thanks Steve and guilty m'lud, I have lots of cables and adaptors amassed over the years!

StepheninRammy

Link Posted 20/03/2021 - 21:53
StepheninRammy wrote:
Lubbyman wrote:
Quote:
[quote:3496ace15f="StepheninRammy"][quote:3496ace15f="Lubbyman"]If you just want to see what the camera is seeing and not control it remotely, an alternative is via HDMI cable. I do this for table-top macro, with a K3 attached to a Windows tablet. Aperture etc. set via the camera, shutter fired by wireless trigger.

Steve

Thanks Steve, I have a long enough lead to operate the shutter by wire, HDMI is an option I just want to see what the camera is seeing.

What connection is needed at the tablet?

I do it via a USB connection and an 'HDMI video capture card'. The 'card' takes HDMI input and converts it to USB, costs about 20 from Amazon. So the chain from camera to tablet is HDMI cable from camera to video capture card (micro-HDMI plug at camera end, standard HDMI at the other), video capture card has standard USB plug that goes into socket on tablet.

Suitable software is needed to view the image. Basically, the camera is just like a webcam as far as the tablet is concerned, so any software for viewing webcams should be OK (may already have it on the tablet). I use OBS Studio (free, runs on Windows, MacOS and Linux) but only because I already had it for other purposes.

One thing to be aware of. If the tablet has an HDMI socket, it is probably only for outputting an HDMI signal to another device, not for HDMI input. Hence input via USB.

Be sure to get the right cables - there are many different species of HDMI and USB sockets and plugs. Anyone going down the road of joining electronics together by cable ends up with a drawer full of cables and adapters, all of them different!

Hope that helps.

StepheninRammy

Link Posted 20/03/2021 - 21:55
StepheninRammy wrote:
StepheninRammy wrote:
Quote:
StepheninRammy wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="StepheninRammy"][quote:3496ace15f="Lubbyman"]If you just want to see what the camera is seeing and not control it remotely, an alternative is via HDMI cable. I do this for table-top macro, with a K3 attached to a Windows tablet. Aperture etc. set via the camera, shutter fired by wireless trigger.

Steve

Thanks Steve, I have a long enough lead to operate the shutter by wire, HDMI is an option I just want to see what the camera is seeing.

What connection is needed at the tablet?

I do it via a USB connection and an 'HDMI video capture card'. The 'card' takes HDMI input and converts it to USB, costs about 20 from Amazon. So the chain from camera to tablet is HDMI cable from camera to video capture card (micro-HDMI plug at camera end, standard HDMI at the other), video capture card has standard USB plug that goes into socket on tablet.

Suitable software is needed to view the image. Basically, the camera is just like a webcam as far as the tablet is concerned, so any software for viewing webcams should be OK (may already have it on the tablet). I use OBS Studio (free, runs on Windows, MacOS and Linux) but only because I already had it for other purposes.

One thing to be aware of. If the tablet has an HDMI socket, it is probably only for outputting an HDMI signal to another device, not for HDMI input. Hence input via USB.

Be sure to get the right cables - there are many different species of HDMI and USB sockets and plugs. Anyone going down the road of joining electronics together by cable ends up with a drawer full of cables and adapters, all of them different!

Hope that helps.



That does help a lot, thanks Steve and guilty m'lud, I have lots of cables and adaptors amassed over the years!
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