Recommend me a macro lens lens


DaveN

Link Posted 24/10/2011 - 22:02
Will be used mostly handheld.
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Charlotte

Link Posted 24/10/2011 - 22:09
It depends on your budget really.

I have one of these.

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But if I could afford one I'd get a new Pentax 100mm Macro.
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Last Edited by Charlotte on 24/10/2011 - 22:11

MarkTaylor

Link Posted 24/10/2011 - 22:51
100ish mm is a good (and pretty standard) focal length for a true macro lens. It's long enough to be able to keep a bit of distance from skittish subjects like insects, and still short enough to be perfectly usable handheld (especially with SR).

Assuming you are looking for a new lens the Tamron SP 90mm F2.8 Macro is an excellent option. It's a bit cheaper than the alternatives but will still set you back a bob or two at 339 on SRS

If expense is no object, go for the Pentax smc DFA 100mm F2.8 WR Macro. It'll cost you about 140 more than the Tamron at 479 on SRS, but it has superior build quality and is weather sealed.

If your budget is a bit lower and you don't mind going second hand you might consider looking for a Samsung D-XENON 100mm F2.8 Macro. It's the same as the Pentax model which preceded the weather sealed version above, but tends to go for a bit less because of the Samsung Branding. It's still likely to cost you at least 250+ though. (The one I linked to is overpriced but the only example I could find on eBay at the moment. They do crop up on a regular basis however.)

If you must have autofocus capability you won't easily find much cheaper than the Samsung unless you are lucky enough to stumble across one of these, the Cosina 100mm F3.5 MC Macro. It's not quite on the same optical level as any of the above and its build quality might provoke open mocking laughter, but it can be picked up for 80-120 and is hard to beat at that price point - IF you can actually find one. Be aware that there is also a manual focus version which is very similar in appearance, so don't confuse them.

If you can live without autofocus then ALL kinds of options (such as the one Charlotte posted above) open up. Far too many to go into. Image quality is not so much of a limiting factor with (true) Macro lenses because the general standard for such lenses tends to be very high. However that's not to say you should buy just anything without looking into it first!
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Last Edited by MarkTaylor on 24/10/2011 - 23:11

DaveN

Link Posted 24/10/2011 - 23:15
I am looking for AF.

I know everyone says macro should be done with MF, but having tried load of combinations, I am rubbish at it.
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petrochemist

Link Posted 24/10/2011 - 23:58
DaveN wrote:
I am looking for AF.

I know everyone says macro should be done with MF, but having tried load of combinations, I am rubbish at it.

That may be because you're working handheld, rather than MF. Hand held macro is possible but only in really good light (generally with flash).
Bear in mind that 'Catch in focus' can effectively turn a MF lens into AF - hold down the shutter release & sway gently backwards & forwards through the focus, and the camera should take it when it's focused.
DOF is minimal so camera movements of less than 1mm are usually critical...
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08tiger

Link Posted 25/10/2011 - 00:38
My son is getting really good results(hand held) with the tamron 60mm macro and he is really fussy with his shots.Then why I ask does he use a Nikon?
C&C welcome.
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DaveN

Link Posted 25/10/2011 - 14:27
Ok so far narrowed it down to Sigma 70 mm or Pentax 100 mm

Consideration : should be light to allow handheld use and short enough for SR to be effective

Q: how effective is SR at 100 mm?
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dinneenp

Link Posted 25/10/2011 - 16:00
I'm in the same boat as you and the Cosina 100mm F3.5 MC Macro sounds very good to me as it's autofocus so good for portraits too.

What prices are the lenses that you're looking at?

There's a very handy webpage here- CHEAP MACRO -- Buying or exploiting a lens for ultraclose work.

I have a thread in this forum and also here in PentaxForums that has a lot of answers
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DaveN

Link Posted 25/10/2011 - 17:01
I have not set a budget as yet, but I have funds coming from the sale another lens.

I have tried and spent a fair amount trying a cheap solution ( which turns out to be be not that cheap eventually)

So for me I more interested in a good solution to my handheld use.
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johnriley

Link Posted 25/10/2011 - 17:03
The pentax 100mm macro lenses are excellent, ideal for most subjects and the SR works just fine, offering maybe up to 3 stops advantage.
Best regards, John

Mannesty

Link Posted 25/10/2011 - 17:03
DaveN wrote:
Ok so far narrowed it down to Sigma 70 mm or Pentax 100 mm

Consideration : should be light to allow handheld use and short enough for SR to be effective

Q: how effective is SR at 100 mm?

The D-FA 100mm and the later D-FA 100mm WR lenses are much lighter than the older F and FA lenses. D-FA 100mm is 345 grammes, the WR variant is 340, but the F and FA lenses are 590 and 600 grammes respectively. All have a max aperture of f2.8

I can personally recommend the D-FA 100mm macro lens and I think it'll suit your needs perfectly.
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Last Edited by Mannesty on 25/10/2011 - 17:06

dinneenp

Link Posted 25/10/2011 - 17:13
does anyone know if this would work for any lenses that'd fit a Pentax?

converting a Canon EF 35-80mm to macro by removing the front element?
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DaveN

Link Posted 25/10/2011 - 17:54
I am gravitating towards the 100mm WR, but also wonder how satisfactory would the Raynox be with the 18-135 WR.

I am very happy with my 18-135 WR despite my initial skepticism and some negative press.
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MarkTaylor

Link Posted 25/10/2011 - 18:06
DaveN wrote:
Q: how effective is SR at 100 mm?

In theory SR should allow you to use shutter speeds as low as 1/20 - 1/10 sec. at 100mm, although this will vary depending on how steady your grip is in the first place so it's always worth improving your technique in this respect.
My Flickr Pentax K-5 K-5 II Sigma 8-16mm F/4.5-5.6 DC HSM Tamron SP AF 17-50mm F/2.8 XR Di II LD ASL SMC Pentax-DA* 50-135mm F/2.8 ED [IF] SDM SMC Pentax-DA 55-300mm F/4-5.8 ED SMC Pentax-DA 18-135mm F/3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] WR Vivitar 100mm F/3.5 Macro AF Metz Mecablitz 58 AF-2
Last Edited by MarkTaylor on 25/10/2011 - 18:07

MarkTaylor

Link Posted 25/10/2011 - 18:12
DaveN wrote:
I am gravitating towards the 100mm WR, but also wonder how satisfactory would the Raynox be with the 18-135 WR.

I am very happy with my 18-135 WR despite my initial skepticism and some negative press.

Although the Raynox is supposed to be among the best of its kind, I've seen numerous test results which always demonstrate the same thing - a normal lens modified with a close up lens or filter simply won't give you anything close to the sharpness of a true macro. I'd think long and hard about how important image sharpness is to you before going down this route - it could turn out to be another 'cheap' solution that works out 'not so cheap' in the long run.
My Flickr Pentax K-5 K-5 II Sigma 8-16mm F/4.5-5.6 DC HSM Tamron SP AF 17-50mm F/2.8 XR Di II LD ASL SMC Pentax-DA* 50-135mm F/2.8 ED [IF] SDM SMC Pentax-DA 55-300mm F/4-5.8 ED SMC Pentax-DA 18-135mm F/3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] WR Vivitar 100mm F/3.5 Macro AF Metz Mecablitz 58 AF-2
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