Really HD photography
Posted 13/11/2012 - 20:13
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steven9761 wrote:
I've been practising making spherical panos using a K-5/10-17 fisheye @10mmMannesty wrote:
You could use say a DA*300mm lens and take a whole series of images in rows and columns, then stitch them together.
I suppose the fact that we have the same player appearing twice in this image it sort of implies a degree of stitching, but I'm guessing that the camera used for this is akin to those used by the likes of NASA and Oxford Scientific Films, Peter.steven9761 wrote:
It made me wonder how close (or far away) we are to seeing a camera available to the mass market that offers this level of detail.
That's relatively easy to do on a smaller scale. You just take a lot of images and stitch them together. Those kind of images, of which there are plenty, are done with a special motorized bit of kit costing around £800.00.It made me wonder how close (or far away) we are to seeing a camera available to the mass market that offers this level of detail.
You could use say a DA*300mm lens and take a whole series of images in rows and columns, then stitch them together.
You need 6 horizontal portrait mode shots and 1 up shot and 1 down shot to complete the sphere. I remove the tripod and pano head from the down shot by taking another couple of shots from the same position hand held, and use PT Gui to stitch the lot together
To get a higher resolution like the stadium you'd need a telephoto lens and stitch more together. Easy in PTGui or similar.
The main thing is to rotate the camera/lens around the entrance pupil point of the lens to avoid parralax errors and thus stitching errors.
This page is pretty cool an shots the measurements for the K-5 and 10-17
http://wiki.panotools.org/Entrance_Pupil_Database
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Posted 13/11/2012 - 20:17
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Mannesty wrote:
Cheaper than the motorized option I linked to, but I don't understand the benefits of the 45 degree tilt. I thought that panos are best taken with the camera in portrait orientation.
they are. with a full frame fisheye you only need 4 shots. APS-C fish eye like the 10-17 only 6
Cheaper than the motorized option I linked to, but I don't understand the benefits of the 45 degree tilt. I thought that panos are best taken with the camera in portrait orientation.
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Posted 13/11/2012 - 20:22
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SnoozeMoose wrote:
It might actually break a few laws, in my country at least.
The picture in itself is not the problem. It is the integration with Fazebook that is the rule-breaker.
(It does not matter if they did like cabstar mentioned, something I am unsure if they even did.
The identification of people in that way is not right.)
If they remove the integration it is perfectly fine, and not even in any gray areas.
The page allows people to log in with their facebook account and thus gives the ability to tag themselves in the crowd. I assume that these tags follow facebooks privacy settings and only people who have allowed their tags to be public can be seen by the public.Algernon wrote:
Impressive stuff, massive invasion of privacy though!
Correct.Impressive stuff, massive invasion of privacy though!
It might actually break a few laws, in my country at least.
The picture in itself is not the problem. It is the integration with Fazebook that is the rule-breaker.
(It does not matter if they did like cabstar mentioned, something I am unsure if they even did.
The identification of people in that way is not right.)
If they remove the integration it is perfectly fine, and not even in any gray areas.
I think it's pretty cool and no invasion of privacy at all
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Haven't GigaPan done this for a while now?
As others mentioned, this is just a stitching job, and like for astro-photography we can already get tripod mods for this.
I find it unlikely that we will ever see this possible without stitching though.
Gigpana is more for linear stitches I think, but could be wrong.On topic:
Haven't GigaPan done this for a while now?
As others mentioned, this is just a stitching job, and like for astro-photography we can already get tripod mods for this.
I find it unlikely that we will ever see this possible without stitching though.
www.360cities.net is excellent for spherical panos and linked to google maps. Look up panos in your area
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Posted 13/11/2012 - 21:37
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The Novoflex VR-System SLANT is at 60deg not 45 as I thought.
The idea is that a fisheye is used with a 180deg diagonal
view exactly vertical so that up and down shots aren't needed.
Here's one using the Novoflex VR-System SLANT system...
the detail of the railway tracks is quite good.
Panorama_Link
A link to the photographers website is at the bottom.
Next Page (on the original site) takes you to other types of
panoramas.
This one inside a chapels good... look at the ceiling.
It doesn't mention the equipment used.
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The idea is that a fisheye is used with a 180deg diagonal
view exactly vertical so that up and down shots aren't needed.
Here's one using the Novoflex VR-System SLANT system...
the detail of the railway tracks is quite good.
Panorama_Link
A link to the photographers website is at the bottom.
Next Page (on the original site) takes you to other types of
panoramas.
This one inside a chapels good... look at the ceiling.
It doesn't mention the equipment used.
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Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber
Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff
Algi
Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff
Algi
Posted 13/11/2012 - 23:03
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this is the model I bought second hand ( not that particular one mind )
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/884925
I extended the vertical arm and fitted a manfrotto QR platform to it, so I could whip the camera off for the down shot with that tripod.
Now this one is impressive
http://www.360cities.net/image/wind-power-himmelberg-sonnenbuehl-baden-wuerttemberg#-95.63,6.14,110.0
Up shots are easy, simply tilt the pano head so the lens point vertically
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/884925
I extended the vertical arm and fitted a manfrotto QR platform to it, so I could whip the camera off for the down shot with that tripod.
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The idea is that a fisheye is used with a 180deg diagonal
view exactly vertical so that up and down shots aren't needed.
You're always going to need a down shot if you want a full spherical. the shot off the bridge over the railway isn't full spherical. they've smeared out the tripod arm. - Mind you not easy to get a full 360 in that position.The idea is that a fisheye is used with a 180deg diagonal
view exactly vertical so that up and down shots aren't needed.
Now this one is impressive
http://www.360cities.net/image/wind-power-himmelberg-sonnenbuehl-baden-wuerttemberg#-95.63,6.14,110.0
Up shots are easy, simply tilt the pano head so the lens point vertically
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Posted 14/11/2012 - 13:14
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That looks like a very good head Smeggy
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Posted 14/11/2012 - 17:17
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@cabstar
You didn't read it correctly. I said that the picture would be fine, but the name-taging of people would not be.
@Smeggypants
From a technical point-of-view it is a fun idea, but nothing prevents you from taging 20 friends of yours afaik.
Also, there is a reason Fazebook's and Goggle's privacy policies are currently questioned under EU law.
But I am beginning to believe people have stopped questioning companies in power lately. They would probably allow them to turn on their webcameras and stream directly from the bedroom in a few years time.
Like, what the hell is up with the 'you are not allowed' to take pictures of the police in a public place anymore in the UK.
'What we currently see with Fazebook, and Goggle, would have been the ultimate wet dream for the Stasi...'
You didn't read it correctly. I said that the picture would be fine, but the name-taging of people would not be.
@Smeggypants
From a technical point-of-view it is a fun idea, but nothing prevents you from taging 20 friends of yours afaik.
Also, there is a reason Fazebook's and Goggle's privacy policies are currently questioned under EU law.
But I am beginning to believe people have stopped questioning companies in power lately. They would probably allow them to turn on their webcameras and stream directly from the bedroom in a few years time.
Like, what the hell is up with the 'you are not allowed' to take pictures of the police in a public place anymore in the UK.
'What we currently see with Fazebook, and Goggle, would have been the ultimate wet dream for the Stasi...'
Posted 14/11/2012 - 17:26
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Tagging on Facebook comes under facebook terms and conditions which the user agrees to when signing up to Facebook, which can also be altered in e users personal settings. At the minute there is no law being broken by tagging someone into a Facebook photo, I believe again this can be changed under account privacy settings.
You are allowed to take photos of policeman here in the uk, photographing however for publication of police who are working unde cover on terrorist duties that could endanger police is obviously not allowed.
Unfortunately there are instances where press stories have reported where police have got these issues wrong and members if the public then perceive them to be laws.
Facebook lawyers are usually in the ball when it comes to complying with different countries privacy laws etc, it would be a fatal business mistake to not be...
You are allowed to take photos of policeman here in the uk, photographing however for publication of police who are working unde cover on terrorist duties that could endanger police is obviously not allowed.
Unfortunately there are instances where press stories have reported where police have got these issues wrong and members if the public then perceive them to be laws.
Facebook lawyers are usually in the ball when it comes to complying with different countries privacy laws etc, it would be a fatal business mistake to not be...
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Posted 14/11/2012 - 17:39
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Yes and according to that page facebook changed its tagging system back in August last year!
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Myself I don't use facebook for other reasons, privacy issues was not one of them...
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Myself I don't use facebook for other reasons, privacy issues was not one of them...
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Posted 14/11/2012 - 21:29
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SnoozeMoose wrote:
@Smeggypants
From a technical point-of-view it is a fun idea, but nothing prevents you from taging 20 friends of yours afaik.
People can choose to review tags of themselves before publication if thay want, so it's not a problem@Smeggypants
From a technical point-of-view it is a fun idea, but nothing prevents you from taging 20 friends of yours afaik.
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Like, what the hell is up with the 'you are not allowed' to take pictures of the police in a public place anymore in the UK.
Not true. I've taken loads of pictures of the police, and they've seen me do it.Like, what the hell is up with the 'you are not allowed' to take pictures of the police in a public place anymore in the UK.
The old 'terrorism' stuff applies though. This maybe helpful
http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm
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Posted 14/11/2012 - 21:32
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Good for taking cylinderical panos in one go
This was linked from that page ..... LOL
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lomography-Spinner-360-degree-Camera/dp/B003WKVOPU/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_2
This was linked from that page ..... LOL
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lomography-Spinner-360-degree-Camera/dp/B003WKVOPU/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_2
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As it is at a Champions League game, photo passes will be issued by EUFA. The photo was taken from the press area of the stadium.
Have found this here which are the terms for the champions league final tickets but most likely will be the same for any european champions league final.
Sound and Image Recordings
9.1 Any person attending the Match acknowledges that use may be made, free of
charge, of his/her voice, image and likeness by means of live or recorded video
display, broadcast or other transmission or recording, photographs or any other
current and/or future media technologies.
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