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Posted 13/04/2013 - 20:18 - Helpful Comment
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I have prints on my wall from my expired Epson R2400 and my new canon ix6550.
Now before I go on I cant emphasise to much how fussy I am about print quality, I have a homemade loupe I built out of damaged sigma lens, it gets in close, not microscope close, but damn close.
I use the same image to compare, at A3, its a shot of my favourite Tree so plenty of detail. I cant call it one way or the other but I'm leaning towards the newer canon I think. If I scanned both prints to show here the detail would be lost.
On the R2400 I used a Lyson CISS with Lyson pigment ink. It was a very cloggy set up for me, I had to do a deep clean and nozzle check before I committed to using some sexy Hahnemühle paper in it.
The ix6550 is currently using an inkflow CISS with dye ink in the 4 and pigment in the 2nd black, its the way canon do it. I'll be changing to all pigment when they run out. So far its going well print quality wise, though the inkflow CISS is about to have all its cart chips replaced under warranty.
The ix6550 has a max dpi of 9600 V's the R2400s 5760, and the ix wins again on the picoliter front with 1 V's the R2400's 3.5.
So not only is the canon a winner on paper its also a winner on, well, paper!!
Now before I go on I cant emphasise to much how fussy I am about print quality, I have a homemade loupe I built out of damaged sigma lens, it gets in close, not microscope close, but damn close.
I use the same image to compare, at A3, its a shot of my favourite Tree so plenty of detail. I cant call it one way or the other but I'm leaning towards the newer canon I think. If I scanned both prints to show here the detail would be lost.
On the R2400 I used a Lyson CISS with Lyson pigment ink. It was a very cloggy set up for me, I had to do a deep clean and nozzle check before I committed to using some sexy Hahnemühle paper in it.
The ix6550 is currently using an inkflow CISS with dye ink in the 4 and pigment in the 2nd black, its the way canon do it. I'll be changing to all pigment when they run out. So far its going well print quality wise, though the inkflow CISS is about to have all its cart chips replaced under warranty.
The ix6550 has a max dpi of 9600 V's the R2400s 5760, and the ix wins again on the picoliter front with 1 V's the R2400's 3.5.
So not only is the canon a winner on paper its also a winner on, well, paper!!
One day you'll find, 10yrs have got behind you.
Posted 13/04/2013 - 22:35 - Helpful Comment
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If you want a cheap and cheerful printer for printing homework and the like, keep an eye on the Canon ebay outlet. I picked up a refurbished MP282 all-in-one printer, copier and scanner there for £12.99 plus delivery - less than the cost of replacement ink for my old printer! Twelve month warranty too. I've had it for the best part of the year and it's still working fine. The cheapest one currently on offer is £20 plus delivery.
Posted 14/04/2013 - 15:29 - Helpful Comment
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Stuey wrote:
I'm still struggling to find anything that advises whether the printer uses cartridge based disposable print heads or the printer based ones
I will keep looking
hiI'm still struggling to find anything that advises whether the printer uses cartridge based disposable print heads or the printer based ones
I will keep looking
i use a HP printer and they have print head built in to cartridge
mine has five cartridges and i change only the ones that are empty
neil
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Posted 15/04/2013 - 20:02
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bettyswolloks wrote:
...The ix6550 is currently using an inkflow CISS with dye ink in the 4 and pigment in the 2nd black, its the way canon do it. I'll be changing to all pigment when they run out. So far its going well print quality wise, though the inkflow CISS is about to have all its cart chips replaced under warranty..
I was thinking of going for a continuous ink system in my iX6550, so read your comment with great interest. If I read you correctly, your kit came from from www.inkflow.co.uk - was it up to your hopes & expectations? (I have read of people being very fed up with systems and inks they've bought from some ebay sellers, and would like to avoid anything that might damage my nice printer:shock
...The ix6550 is currently using an inkflow CISS with dye ink in the 4 and pigment in the 2nd black, its the way canon do it. I'll be changing to all pigment when they run out. So far its going well print quality wise, though the inkflow CISS is about to have all its cart chips replaced under warranty..
Posted 15/04/2013 - 20:22
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duncanM wrote:
That's correct Duncan. Not had it long enough to make a call on print life, I have one in my window catching direct sunlight to see how long it will last without discolouring or fading. As stated above the auto reset chips are being replaced FOC under warranty due to inconsistency in resetting. Nothing that will damage the printer though as far as I'm aware. But yeah apart from that its doing everything I expected of it, Clive at inkflow has helped and worked with me in identifying the problem and provided pretty faultless customer support. Let me put it this way, I'd happily buy the same again
bettyswolloks wrote:
...The ix6550 is currently using an inkflow CISS with dye ink in the 4 and pigment in the 2nd black, its the way canon do it. I'll be changing to all pigment when they run out. So far its going well print quality wise, though the inkflow CISS is about to have all its cart chips replaced under warranty..
I was thinking of going for a continuous ink system in my iX6550, so read your comment with great interest. If I read you correctly, your kit came from from www.inkflow.co.uk - was it up to your hopes & expectations? (I have read of people being very fed up with systems and inks they've bought from some ebay sellers, and would like to avoid anything that might damage my nice printer:shock...The ix6550 is currently using an inkflow CISS with dye ink in the 4 and pigment in the 2nd black, its the way canon do it. I'll be changing to all pigment when they run out. So far its going well print quality wise, though the inkflow CISS is about to have all its cart chips replaced under warranty..
One day you'll find, 10yrs have got behind you.
Posted 15/04/2013 - 22:15
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bettyswolloks wrote:
I'd happily buy the same again
That's good to hear! Presumably you have to leave the top of the printer open, to accommodate the run of tubing between the reservoir and the cartridges, but hopefully the installation is not too Heath Robinson I take it you don't wish you had just gone for the refillable tanks?
I'd happily buy the same again
Posted 16/04/2013 - 09:19
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duncanM wrote:
I take it you don't wish you had just gone for the refillable tanks?
This isn't my 1st CISS so for me refillable carts don't get a look-in. Have a look HERE at what's involved in priming and fitting a CISS from scratch. If your not comfy doing it then refillable carts maybe for you as there is always the risk of a flooded printer, never had one here but it is a risk.
I take it you don't wish you had just gone for the refillable tanks?
One day you'll find, 10yrs have got behind you.
Posted 16/04/2013 - 10:50
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Really helpful stuff, mate. I am clearer about the pros & cons of CISS now, and it is gratifying you were willing to talk about your experience of Inkflow. Judging by your experience of them and their website, they seem to show a real degree of committment to this particular aspect of printing, which is encouraging & reassuring.
BTW did you cut a slot in the top of your printer for the tubing, or do you just prop the top up permanently?
BTW did you cut a slot in the top of your printer for the tubing, or do you just prop the top up permanently?
Posted 16/04/2013 - 11:24
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Sorry should of mentioned, I've just made a little plug to fit in the hole that let's the printer know when the lids is up or down. I like to keep the lid open a little anyway to give the tubes room to move, I don't like to leave the lid open permanently just in case the kids land something in there while its printing and they're being kids!!
At this stage I don't want to cut the printer incase I have reason to make a warranty claim of some description as obviously fitting a CISS will void the warranty. Though I cant really see how a properly fitted CISS could cause damage to the printer.
As for inkflow themselves, the site to me doesn't look as professional as say the marrutt lyson site, but the service and quality is as good and I'm more than happy to use 'em again.
I bought a full lyson system for my Epson R2400 and I've fitted a permajet system to an Epson R2880 both are meant to be the standard, the benchmark if you will. But the inflow sourced hardware is equal if not better to them.
The only question mark is the ink quality that comes with it and only time will tell. But ink can be bought from elsewhere if its found to be lacking.
Only to happy to help Mate
At this stage I don't want to cut the printer incase I have reason to make a warranty claim of some description as obviously fitting a CISS will void the warranty. Though I cant really see how a properly fitted CISS could cause damage to the printer.
As for inkflow themselves, the site to me doesn't look as professional as say the marrutt lyson site, but the service and quality is as good and I'm more than happy to use 'em again.
I bought a full lyson system for my Epson R2400 and I've fitted a permajet system to an Epson R2880 both are meant to be the standard, the benchmark if you will. But the inflow sourced hardware is equal if not better to them.
The only question mark is the ink quality that comes with it and only time will tell. But ink can be bought from elsewhere if its found to be lacking.
Only to happy to help Mate
One day you'll find, 10yrs have got behind you.
Posted 16/04/2013 - 12:34
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bettyswolloks wrote:
the site to me doesn't look as professional as say the marrutt lyson site, but the service and quality is as good.. ..question mark is the ink quality that comes with it and only time will tell. But ink can be bought from elsewhere if its found to be lacking..
You know, I agree that the Inkflo site may come over as a tad naive, but the lack of 'shmooze' suggests (to meat least) that they maybe prioritise practicalities over projection of 'brand image'the site to me doesn't look as professional as say the marrutt lyson site, but the service and quality is as good.. ..question mark is the ink quality that comes with it and only time will tell. But ink can be bought from elsewhere if its found to be lacking..
I do worry about using third party ink, but the hope has to be that Inkflow have been in the business long enough, and for the long run, to avoid risking low ink standards Time'll tell as you say
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It would be interesting to see a comparison of the same image printed on both a Canon and Epson highish end printers. I wonder whether anyone can oblige?? Certainly Epson printers produce some very fine images when they work!