PPG judges hate birds!

For some unknown reasons, all my bird-related pictures have been rejected from PPG. They must have secret hatred for winged animals.



Air Fire Water by Tùng béo, on Flickr


Landing zone by Tùng béo, on Flickr


Organic motorboat by Tùng béo, on Flickr


Sunbathing by Tùng béo, on Flickr

Note: the ones I sent to PPG are not framed.

Just got to keep at it Over 40% of my limited acceptances are birds

I have 20 bird pics on my PPG (yes I am that bored I just counted them).

Er, I have 4 bird pics on PPG..

.. it must be the way I take them!

I have no bird pics on PPG

None anywhere in fact. I'm tempted though looking at some of the ones on here.

My first two accepted were an owl & a par of butterflies, so it's not just winged creatures - more like the usual random factor...

I don't know about birds, but I think colour street shots don't go down too well.....

Alex, I am really sorry to say this but if those were the shots of birds you submitted I wouldn't be surprised they were not accepted. Although they cannot be considered bad but definitely not to the standard for PPG. Heck there are some stunning shots of winged creatures there so I am not surprised the selection criteria is really high.

Please do not take this as a reflection of your standard of photography. This is just my humble opinion regarding the above shots and its only my personal opinion. But hey, I could be wrong, after all I am just a newbie still trying to learn the intricacies of this beautiful art

I concur with Aliengrove: I reckon the opposite is true. Two of the weaker images in my collection are of birds, whereas I have had much stronger images of people rejected. Also - though perhaps this just betrays my prejudice - but I am often surprised by the moderate (or worse) quality of images of birds that get in (though of course there are also many that are technically excellent) - take the image of the duck that Tim (Thoughton) had accepted which was discussed in the PPG thread a while back which (IMO) was technically competent but hardly inspired. Having said that, of late I'm often surprised by the mediocre quality of images on all subjects that get in (including some of mine:shock

Regarding your rejects Testdasi, I'm not so surprised these weren't acepted.

I like the idea of 1 but as it is, for me there's no obvious focal point.

2's good but critically you've clipped the bird's wing and the tail is rather dense.

I'm not convinced by the composition of 3 and again (on my monitor at least) it seems rather dense in the darker areas.

4's not bad. I like the bokeh. However, I can see why people may not have voted yes. It's not a clearly outstanding image, which all PPG entries OUGHT to be. Clearly all PPG acceptances aren't outstanding, and it sometimes seems to be a bit of a lottery as to what does get in - but that's another story.

+1 on both the previous posts....

I thought I was going to give some insight but can offer no more than the previous three posters.

I noticed on Facebook that Pentax say that the PPG is struggling with 2,700 unjudged pictures right now and are asking for more of us to judge.

Thinking of one of Dr. Mhuni's comments on mediocrity, I have to concur. There has been a noticeable drop in standards of late and as a result I no longer submit work.

There have been many similar comments on facebook, it is all about colour pictorialism.

Maybe we should all go and do some voting right now, then I may get a decision on my next two bird pics

I didn't know that they had a notice board for these things. I must add it to my list.

I subscribe to the Pantax USA one but just the other day they added facebook pages for every other territory.