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Poss loose connection? DIY fix?

cardiffgareth
Posted 03/10/2019 - 20:47 Link
The Sigma 24-70mm has decided when in portrait composition to start saying F- on screen and then if it takes an image it's then overexposed. Flip the camera back into landscape orientation and it goes away! Seems to be when the camera is held upright.

Tried other lenses and no dramas so I think it's the lens and not the camera body itself. I've cleaned the contacts also to make sure it wasn't anything as simple as that but it didn't effect anything.

Wondering if it's a DIY fix or if it needs to go to Sigma?

Thanks
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Mike-P
Posted 03/10/2019 - 21:11 - Helpful Comment Link
Check the screws on the mount are tight. They quite often work loose on Sigma lenses (no idea why).
cardiffgareth
Posted 03/10/2019 - 21:27 Link
Will do. I have an electrical screwdriver set in work so I'll bring them home and check the screws. Will update tomorrow ....!
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alfpics
Posted 03/10/2019 - 21:32 - Helpful Comment Link
I have sometimes had the F show and it has just taken a twist of the lens fully into the lock position (if that makes sense). My guess, if that is the case for you, is that going portrait allows the lens to move slightly so the contacts don't quite align.
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cardiffgareth
Posted 05/10/2019 - 21:51 Link
So tried the screws and all tight! Gave the contacts another good wipe over and when I tried portrait orientation shooting I had no issues!

Lets hope I'm not talking too soon but could this be problem solved!
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alfpics
Posted 05/10/2019 - 22:30 - Helpful Comment Link
cardiffgareth wrote:
So tried the screws and all tight! Gave the contacts another good wipe over and when I tried portrait orientation shooting I had no issues!

Lets hope I'm not talking too soon but could this be problem solved!

Let's hope so!
Andy
cardiffgareth
Posted 08/10/2019 - 19:12 Link
Update
Was out last night with it and in portrait mode my issues reappeared. Got it home and checked the 3 screws and all were super tight. It does seem to have a millimeter of play on the body when when I looked this play with in the aperture ring so when the aperture is locked into A, I can wiggle the lens about a millimeter to bring up the F- on screen but wiggle it back the other way and we're back in the game,
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redbusa99
Posted 09/10/2019 - 11:19 Link
looking at Sigma service tarrif it would be around 110 for repair Gareth. had my 17-70 done by them for 95, it is in a lower price band than your 24-70 f2.8. it had the image stabiliser replaced and came back looking like new. was away 3 wweeks .
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cardiffgareth
Posted 13/10/2019 - 08:06 Link
Thanks Joe

Trying to convince the wife I should of done that upgrade and it's still not too late
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redbusa99
Posted 13/10/2019 - 09:42 Link
good luck with that if you have one like me that just does not understand the needs of the photographer and LBA
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cardiffgareth
Posted 17/10/2019 - 10:56 Link
So I called Sigma today and spoke with the service department. They think the A pin over time can get worn and this gives the F- error on screen. When I enquired about a price to repair he said they don't repair these lenses anymore and to go to an independent repairer and also they don't even have Pentax mounts there in the service department

Worrying if that means now then that if your lens develops a fault with the mount then you're screwed
Gareth Williams ARPS

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Benz3ne
Posted 17/10/2019 - 11:33 - Helpful Comment Link
cardiffgareth wrote:
So I called Sigma today and spoke with the service department. They think the A pin over time can get worn and this gives the F- error on screen. When I enquired about a price to repair he said they don't repair these lenses anymore and to go to an independent repairer and also they don't even have Pentax mounts there in the service department

Worrying if that means now then that if your lens develops a fault with the mount then you're screwed

If the A-pin has only worn (I'm imagining the height of the pin receding), is there any way to build it back up again even if only temporary? I'd not like to suggest soldering or a conductive paste but perhaps a less 'risky' method might be available?
cardiffgareth
Posted 17/10/2019 - 11:53 Link
Benz3ne wrote:
cardiffgareth wrote:
So I called Sigma today and spoke with the service department. They think the A pin over time can get worn and this gives the F- error on screen. When I enquired about a price to repair he said they don't repair these lenses anymore and to go to an independent repairer and also they don't even have Pentax mounts there in the service department

Worrying if that means now then that if your lens develops a fault with the mount then you're screwed

If the A-pin has only worn (I'm imagining the height of the pin receding), is there any way to build it back up again even if only temporary? I'd not like to suggest soldering or a conductive paste but perhaps a less 'risky' method might be available?

Pass! I'll call an independent repairer later if anyone has anyone they could recommend?

That or its eBay time!
Gareth Williams ARPS

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Mike-P
Posted 17/10/2019 - 17:12 Link
As far as I am aware your 24-70mm is about 3 generations behind their current version. I know that Canon don't service/carry parts for any of their lenses once they have been replaced by something more up to date and they are more than 5? years old so it's not just Sigma.

I think Alan Marlow my be winding down for retirement but worth contacting him. LINK
cardiffgareth
Posted 17/10/2019 - 17:44 Link
Thanks Mike will do. When I spoke with Sigma they didn't ask what model it was when he said they don't keep the Pentax mount in stock any more
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