Performance Zoom Lens?
Posted 16/03/2008 - 00:13
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I currently have a DA 50-200mm bit finding the reach and sharpness is not producing nice images, it is also a bit slow.
Looking for recommendations on a replacement lens f/2.8 at all focal lengths would be good, also need to be able to zoom in an out so fixed prime would not do the job.
Reason is to take images of wild life in particular birds at local salt marsh and surrounding coastal areas, getting up close enough with 50-200mm is not proving a good option.
Thanks in advance.
Gary.
http://www.superdigitalcity.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=579109I currently have a DA 50-200mm bit finding the reach and sharpness is not producing nice images, it is also a bit slow.
Looking for recommendations on a replacement lens f/2.8 at all focal lengths would be good, also need to be able to zoom in an out so fixed prime would not do the job.
Reason is to take images of wild life in particular birds at local salt marsh and surrounding coastal areas, getting up close enough with 50-200mm is not proving a good option.
Thanks in advance.
Gary.
Gary this new Sigma has my attention at the moment. Not seen any reviews on it yet but would be surprised if its not up too scratch :
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Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
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Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
Posted 16/03/2008 - 02:15
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If you want a longer focal length than 200mm then F2.8 is going to be a problem.
K100D Super, 18-55, 50-200, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 70mm macro and lots of old lenses
Posted 16/03/2008 - 07:47
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Have a look at the Sigma 135-400 or 50-500 APO zooms. It's not 1:2.8, but then you won't need a mortgage to buy it either. Where lenses are concerned, long + fast = astronomically expensive + very heavy.
The Sigma i mentioned can be picked up brand new for less than you pay for a Bigma
Have a look at the Sigma 135-400 or 50-500 APO zooms. It's not 1:2.8, but then you won't need a mortgage to buy it either. Where lenses are concerned, long + fast = astronomically expensive + very heavy.
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
Posted 16/03/2008 - 09:03
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True Clarky but it is still only a 20mm lens. What Mannesty says is true for longer focal lengths. No indication of how weavy the beast is either.
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Have a look at the Sigma 135-400 or 50-500 APO zooms. It's not 1:2.8, but then you won't need a mortgage to buy it either. Where lenses are concerned, long + fast = astronomically expensive + very heavy.
The Sigma i mentioned can be picked up brand new for less than you pay for a Bigma Have a look at the Sigma 135-400 or 50-500 APO zooms. It's not 1:2.8, but then you won't need a mortgage to buy it either. Where lenses are concerned, long + fast = astronomically expensive + very heavy.
Posted 16/03/2008 - 09:25
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Have a look at the Sigma 135-400..................
Does anyone have any experience of this lens : Have a look at the Sigma 135-400..................
For me it would appear to be ideal, carrying on where my 50 -135 stops.
Hyram
Bodies: K20D (2), K10D, Super A, ME Super, Auto 110 SLR, X70, Optio P70
Pentax Glass: DA* 300, DA* 60-250, DA* 50-135, DA* 16-50, DA 70 Ltd, FA 31 Ltd, DA 35 Ltd, DA 18-55 (2), DA 12-24, DA 10-17, M 200, A 35-70, M 40, M 28, Converter-A 2X-S, 1.4X-S, AF 1.7, Pentax-110 50, Pentax-110 24
Other Glass: Sigma 105 macro, Sigma-A APO 75-300
Flash: Metz 58 AF-1 P, Pentax AF160FC ringflash, Pentax AF280T
Bodies: K20D (2), K10D, Super A, ME Super, Auto 110 SLR, X70, Optio P70
Pentax Glass: DA* 300, DA* 60-250, DA* 50-135, DA* 16-50, DA 70 Ltd, FA 31 Ltd, DA 35 Ltd, DA 18-55 (2), DA 12-24, DA 10-17, M 200, A 35-70, M 40, M 28, Converter-A 2X-S, 1.4X-S, AF 1.7, Pentax-110 50, Pentax-110 24
Other Glass: Sigma 105 macro, Sigma-A APO 75-300
Flash: Metz 58 AF-1 P, Pentax AF160FC ringflash, Pentax AF280T
Posted 16/03/2008 - 09:29
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Sorry my understanding was Gary was looking for something in the 200mm range at 2.8Clarky wrote:
True Clarky but it is still only a 20mm lens. What Mannesty says is true for longer focal lengths. No indication of how weavy the beast is either.Quote:
Have a look at the Sigma 135-400 or 50-500 APO zooms. It's not 1:2.8, but then you won't need a mortgage to buy it either. Where lenses are concerned, long + fast = astronomically expensive + very heavy.
The Sigma i mentioned can be picked up brand new for less than you pay for a Bigma Have a look at the Sigma 135-400 or 50-500 APO zooms. It's not 1:2.8, but then you won't need a mortgage to buy it either. Where lenses are concerned, long + fast = astronomically expensive + very heavy.
The 70-200mm weighs in at a hefty 1.3 kgs compared to 1.8kgs for the bigma. So its no light weight
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
Posted 16/03/2008 - 10:34
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http://www.superdigitalcity.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=579109
Gary this new Sigma has my attention at the moment. Not seen any reviews on it yet but would be surprised if its not up too scratch :
This looks like the only cost effective f/2.8 option we have for Pentax, combined with a converter this may work well. http://www.superdigitalcity.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=579109
Gary this new Sigma has my attention at the moment. Not seen any reviews on it yet but would be surprised if its not up too scratch :
However still some debate as it has HSM which means no AF on Pentax, Manual focusing may prove to be a show stopper for some.
I think Pentax needs to extend its lens road map to include a lens we can use for this reach. We are missing out
Posted 16/03/2008 - 10:38
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However still some debate as it has HSM which means no AF on Pentax, Manual focusing may prove to be a show stopper for some.
I think Pentax needs to extend its lens road map to include a lens we can use for this reach. We are missing out
Gary my understanding is it will Auto focus, I believe it works with HSM and as standard auto focus.Quote:
http://www.superdigitalcity.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=579109
Gary this new Sigma has my attention at the moment. Not seen any reviews on it yet but would be surprised if its not up too scratch :
This looks like the only cost effective f/2.8 option we have for Pentax, combined with a converter this may work well. http://www.superdigitalcity.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=579109
Gary this new Sigma has my attention at the moment. Not seen any reviews on it yet but would be surprised if its not up too scratch :
However still some debate as it has HSM which means no AF on Pentax, Manual focusing may prove to be a show stopper for some.
I think Pentax needs to extend its lens road map to include a lens we can use for this reach. We are missing out
The pentax 60-250 is due out in april is it not. but that is f4 not f2.8
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
Posted 16/03/2008 - 10:45
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Gary my understanding is it will Auto focus, I believe it works with HSM and as standard auto focus.
The pentax 60-250 is due out in April is it not. but that is f4 not f2.8
Thanks Clarky for the info much appreciated:Gary my understanding is it will Auto focus, I believe it works with HSM and as standard auto focus.
The pentax 60-250 is due out in April is it not. but that is f4 not f2.8
I have added this lens to my list now, I will wait out on the 60-250 reviews.
However the Sigma APO 70-200mm F2.8 II EX DG MACRO HSM Lens might be the better option now if AF works. (combined with converter the glass would allow this to work in the range I am looking for).
Posted 16/03/2008 - 10:57
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The speed at 1:2.8 satisfies Gary's speed requirement bit it's still only 200mm at the long end. Not long enough for his intended subject.Mannesty wrote:
Have a look at the Sigma 135-400 or 50-500 APO zooms. It's not 1:2.8, but then you won't need a mortgage to buy it either. Where lenses are concerned, long + fast = astronomically expensive + very heavy.
The Sigma i mentioned can be picked up brand new for less than you pay for a Bigma Have a look at the Sigma 135-400 or 50-500 APO zooms. It's not 1:2.8, but then you won't need a mortgage to buy it either. Where lenses are concerned, long + fast = astronomically expensive + very heavy.
EDIT: I should have read the following posts where this point is already mentioned. Sorry.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Posted 16/03/2008 - 10:59
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For me it would appear to be ideal, carrying on where my 50 -135 stops.
Yes, I have one, and it's a superb optic. I haven't used it recently but I'll try to dig out some pics taken with it next week.
Mannesty wrote:
Have a look at the Sigma 135-400..................
Does anyone have any experience of this lens : Have a look at the Sigma 135-400..................
For me it would appear to be ideal, carrying on where my 50 -135 stops.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Posted 16/03/2008 - 11:25
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Peter,Hyram wrote:
For me it would appear to be ideal, carrying on where my 50 -135 stops.
Yes, I have one, and it's a superb optic. I haven't used it recently but I'll try to dig out some pics taken with it next week.Quote:
Have a look at the Sigma 135-400..................
Does anyone have any experience of this lens : Have a look at the Sigma 135-400..................
For me it would appear to be ideal, carrying on where my 50 -135 stops.
Thank you for the information.
Having carried out a bit more research this morning I see that Sigma are due to release two new Pentax fit lenses 120 - 400 4.5 / 5.6 and 150 - 500 5.0 / 6.3 (both DG OS lenses).
Although theoretically HSM as well, I assume that the Pentax version will not have the motor.
They are listed on the Sigma site but not currently shown as Pentax fit, although Park Cameras list them as Pentax fit but with no price, as yet
Hyram
Bodies: K20D (2), K10D, Super A, ME Super, Auto 110 SLR, X70, Optio P70
Pentax Glass: DA* 300, DA* 60-250, DA* 50-135, DA* 16-50, DA 70 Ltd, FA 31 Ltd, DA 35 Ltd, DA 18-55 (2), DA 12-24, DA 10-17, M 200, A 35-70, M 40, M 28, Converter-A 2X-S, 1.4X-S, AF 1.7, Pentax-110 50, Pentax-110 24
Other Glass: Sigma 105 macro, Sigma-A APO 75-300
Flash: Metz 58 AF-1 P, Pentax AF160FC ringflash, Pentax AF280T
Bodies: K20D (2), K10D, Super A, ME Super, Auto 110 SLR, X70, Optio P70
Pentax Glass: DA* 300, DA* 60-250, DA* 50-135, DA* 16-50, DA 70 Ltd, FA 31 Ltd, DA 35 Ltd, DA 18-55 (2), DA 12-24, DA 10-17, M 200, A 35-70, M 40, M 28, Converter-A 2X-S, 1.4X-S, AF 1.7, Pentax-110 50, Pentax-110 24
Other Glass: Sigma 105 macro, Sigma-A APO 75-300
Flash: Metz 58 AF-1 P, Pentax AF160FC ringflash, Pentax AF280T
Posted 16/03/2008 - 11:31
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They are both meant to use HSM on Pentax (so they will only AF on the K10D and K20D) - they won't provide OS, though, within the lens.
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Looking for recommendations on a replacement lens f/2.8 at all focal lengths would be good, also need to be able to zoom in an out so fixed prime would not do the job.
Reason is to take images of wild life in particular birds at local salt marsh and surrounding coastal areas, getting up close enough with 50-200mm is not proving a good option.
Thanks in advance.
Gary.