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michaelblue
Posted 09/10/2013 - 05:46 Link
It's bad enough coping with the all spelling mistakes (Typing errors) without having to consult a dictionary
Regards,
Michael
RussV
Posted 09/10/2013 - 15:10 Link
CMW wrote:
I'm left wondering what benefit FF will bring to photographers who hitherto have not yet seemed to make the most of their APSC kit.

+1
DrOrloff
Posted 09/10/2013 - 15:13 Link
By the same token you could argue that some people with DSLRs should downgrade to a point and shoot.
petrochemist
Posted 10/10/2013 - 11:08 Link
DrOrloff wrote:
By the same token you could argue that some people with DSLRs should downgrade to a point and shoot.

I've know several where this would probably be a good move!

I'm sure FF will be better for some shots than APSC, but for most users I doubt it would be noticable. Quite oftem for macro a SMALLER sensor is actually an advantage as you get increased DOF.

Going further to MF would have more impact, but the FF bregade seem to ignore that. Is it just because a 645D & lenses is going to set them back £££ while wishing for a 35mm 'full frame' is free!
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.

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petrochemist
Posted 10/10/2013 - 11:19 Link
Pentaxonian wrote:
They need to improve the lens line up. Mirrorless is the future and they should improve upon the the APS C size K01.

A K-01 upgrade COULD be made with interchangable mounts one giving direct use of K mount lenses as currently, and another containg a focal reducer similar to the metabones speedbooster which would give the 35mm equivalent FOV with FF lenses. Designed properly AF etc would still be available, and a real benefit of the mirrorless system would be seen.

IMO it needs a viewfinder too, and the looks...
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.

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Edited by petrochemist: 10/10/2013 - 11:21
johnriley
Posted 10/10/2013 - 11:30 Link
Quote:
Mirrorless is the future

Not so sure the other manufacturers would all agree - sales for Nikon mirrorless, for example, have fallen well short of expectation, production has been scaled back and they are turning to DSLRs as the money earners.
Best regards, John
Pentaxophile
Posted 10/10/2013 - 12:01 Link
But Nikon's attempt at mirrorless has been even more pathetic than Pentax, so that's hardly surprising ;P

But I don't think Pentax should go after the same market already served pretty well by Fuji/Sony/Olympus.
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michaelblue
Posted 10/10/2013 - 14:34 Link
Pentaxophile wrote:
But Nikon's attempt at mirrorless has been even more pathetic than Pentax, so that's hardly surprising ;P

But I don't think Pentax should go after the same market already served pretty well by Fuji/Sony/Olympus.

I wouldn't say the Q was pathetic, on the contrary, for it's size it's an amazing camera! Yes, it was overpriced at launch but now is a real bargain.

The K01 on the other hand, was a total 'design' disaster!!!!
Regards,
Michael
grahamcoad
Posted 10/10/2013 - 16:38 Link
FULL FRAME....invented by Oskar Barnack before the 1914-18 World War in the LAST CENTURY, simply because it used the cheapest available film, 35mm cine film which could take a double frame 36x24mm image if used on its side instead of vertically in cine cameras.

Great for film, which is still being made, (better than ever), but now that digital photography has freed us from the need to conform to arbitrary film sizes, I find it bizarre that some people wish to tie themselves to "36x24mm"

I am aware that I know far more people using their 'panorama format' mobile phones to do all their imaging, and getting surprisingly good results.

I see the "Medium Format" fans do not seem to be insisting on 6x9cm, 6x7, 6x6, 6x4.5, "Medium format full frames", seemingly happy with the Leica S 45x30mm, Pentax 645D 44x33mm or Hasselblad's 40x45mm.

In film equivalent, these "medium formats" are more like the almost defunct old "127" roll film format, 4x4cm, never the most popular...

I know that generally a larger negative/sensor/transparency can lead to a better quality image, mainly because it doesn't have to be enlarged as much, but there is no special magic in "full format" 36x24.
K-1, Sigma 12-24mm DG EX, Sigma 24-70mm DG EX, K-3, White K-01 with 40mm XS and white 35mm f2.4, SMC Pentax FA 1.8 31mm AL Limited, 43mm f1.9 Limited, 77mm f1.8 Limited, Sigma 17-50 f2.8, SMC Pentax DA* 50-135 f2.8, MX + SMC M 50mm f1.4, SMC A 50mm f1.4, SMC A 50mm f1.2, Spotmatic F 55mm f1.8, ES with 55mm f1.8 and 28mm f3.5, Program Plus (Chrome) with SMC A 50mm f1.7, Pentax 6x7, Leica ii, plus misc. odds and sods)
Lancer3397
Posted 10/10/2013 - 16:53 Link
Pentaxophile wrote:
People invest in APSC kit with an eye to one day going FF... which is one of the reasons they go with Canikon.

errr don't think so. certainly not for this bright boy. FF interests me not at all and the prices of canikon kit is a total put off. Pentax is right up my street as is APS-C kit.
Pentax K3, DA 18-55 WR, Sigma 50-500 EX DG HSM, Pentax M-50, a bucket load of SD cards, some lights and a lightbox
davem
Posted 10/10/2013 - 17:01 Link
If Pentax were to start producing a range of accessories again what would you like to see?

For me - perhaps a 2x teleconvertor or a birding telescope adaptor

Dave
grahamcoad
Posted 10/10/2013 - 17:13 Link
Pentax Baseball cap, T shirts and sweat shirts in 6XL, Pentax Crocs, Pentax stickers for my 4x4, proper old shoulder bag with huge Pentax stickers, Pentax mug, egg cups and crockery set, cuddly Pentax teddy bear, and dedicated Pentax books about Pentax stuff, Pentax socks, Pentax pillow and bedspread set, super King size, and last but not least, a special Pentax Credit Card that never needs repaying...........
K-1, Sigma 12-24mm DG EX, Sigma 24-70mm DG EX, K-3, White K-01 with 40mm XS and white 35mm f2.4, SMC Pentax FA 1.8 31mm AL Limited, 43mm f1.9 Limited, 77mm f1.8 Limited, Sigma 17-50 f2.8, SMC Pentax DA* 50-135 f2.8, MX + SMC M 50mm f1.4, SMC A 50mm f1.4, SMC A 50mm f1.2, Spotmatic F 55mm f1.8, ES with 55mm f1.8 and 28mm f3.5, Program Plus (Chrome) with SMC A 50mm f1.7, Pentax 6x7, Leica ii, plus misc. odds and sods)
JAK
Posted 10/10/2013 - 17:31 Link
grahamcoad wrote:
I know that generally a larger negative/sensor/transparency can lead to a better quality image, mainly because it doesn't have to be enlarged as much, but there is no special magic in "full format" 36x24.

That's right. There was no rush to go from 36x24 to 24x18 using the same film stocks because the quality was worse, even though one could get 72+ photos from a roll of film.

John K
John K
Pentaxophile
Posted 10/10/2013 - 17:55 Link
Lancer3397 wrote:
Pentaxophile wrote:
People invest in APSC kit with an eye to one day going FF... which is one of the reasons they go with Canikon.

errr don't think so. certainly not for this bright boy. FF interests me not at all and the prices of canikon kit is a total put off. Pentax is right up my street as is APS-C kit.

Well by definition this does not apply to you, nor does it me - since we have selected a system knowing that it does not offer FF. But have you noticed that we are in a minority

NOT that I am suggesting this is the only or even main reason people tend to choose with Canikon.

But reading the forums on Dpreview and ModelMayhem, it's certainly [b]A[/b] reason
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JAK
Posted 10/10/2013 - 22:23 Link
Pentaxophile wrote:
Well by definition this does not apply to you, nor does it me - since we have selected a system knowing that it does not offer FF.

But that isn't the case. Many Pentax users regularly use lenses that do offer FF. The only thing missing is a camera body to match!

John K
John K

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