Pentax launch the Q
Posted 24/06/2011 - 10:15
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mecrox wrote:
I was discussing the Q with someone this evening and he pointed out that the missing killer app with nearly all these compact cameras, given their typical usage, is connectivity. On a mobile phone, one click take the picture and pretty well one more click lands the picture on a website. No nearly so easy with a camera, though it should be, I think. So I hope one of the first add-ons Pentax produce for the Q is a wifi connector for the hotshoe, and a connector that will upload direct to the net and not only transfer files to a PC. Perhaps Pentax have missed a trick by not building this in from the get-go. It might produce more sales than k adapter mounts and the like.
Agreed, I think it's the most obvious omission.I was discussing the Q with someone this evening and he pointed out that the missing killer app with nearly all these compact cameras, given their typical usage, is connectivity. On a mobile phone, one click take the picture and pretty well one more click lands the picture on a website. No nearly so easy with a camera, though it should be, I think. So I hope one of the first add-ons Pentax produce for the Q is a wifi connector for the hotshoe, and a connector that will upload direct to the net and not only transfer files to a PC. Perhaps Pentax have missed a trick by not building this in from the get-go. It might produce more sales than k adapter mounts and the like.
Other than that, smart, revolutionary, future-proof product which raises the bar and actually has a good USP rather than being a clone of everyone else's efforts. Well done Pentax
... just another middle-aged guy with a hobby. I have an extreme macro learning site at extreme-macro.co.uk - Pentax-centric, your feedback and comments would be appreciated!
Posted 24/06/2011 - 10:53
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rparmar wrote:
The 1/2000 with the internal flash is in use with leaf shutters in the lenses, the shutter sync on the sensor can go up to 1/250 but only 1/180 on the DSLRs, both of which we do not have on our DLSRs which is why I asked for them! As you can tell from my sig, I have HSS but it's not a replacement for either!
Unlocker wrote:
Sure. It's called HSS. Quote:
Thanks to the lens shutter mechanism, the PENTAX Q’s built-in auto flash can even be synchronized to the camera’s top shutter speed of 1/2000 second (or 1/250 second when using an accessory flash unit).
Can we have that on our DSLRs please?! Thanks to the lens shutter mechanism, the PENTAX Q’s built-in auto flash can even be synchronized to the camera’s top shutter speed of 1/2000 second (or 1/250 second when using an accessory flash unit).
Posted 24/06/2011 - 11:06
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Algernon wrote:
Eye-Fi cards already upload to websites and there doesn't seem
much interest in them from Pentax users.
Nikon have discontinued the FF A850 because the price was too close
to the A900 so people were buying the the A900 instead. Loads of
people could have told them that before they even made the A850,
but some people in these organizations like to pursue their
dead end ideas
Why not give free tickets to New York with every camera it worked
for Hoover..... Not!!!
Nikon A850?
Eye-Fi cards already upload to websites and there doesn't seem
much interest in them from Pentax users.
Nikon have discontinued the FF A850 because the price was too close
to the A900 so people were buying the the A900 instead. Loads of
people could have told them that before they even made the A850,
but some people in these organizations like to pursue their
dead end ideas
Why not give free tickets to New York with every camera it worked
for Hoover..... Not!!!
Too far from a shore.
Posted 24/06/2011 - 11:34
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Don't know if anyone has posted this yet- What you can get for hte £800 it costs to buy a Pentax Q
Posted 24/06/2011 - 11:44
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Algernon wrote:
Eye-Fi cards already upload to websites and there doesn't seem much interest in them from Pentax users.
Think you are missing the point there Algi.Eye-Fi cards already upload to websites and there doesn't seem much interest in them from Pentax users.
You don't really have any control over the Eye-Fi and it won't work out in the field where there is no WiFi. The point that was trying to be made was that you could take a shot, maybe edit it, then upload to Facebook / Flickr etc.
As an example a lot of my friends on Facebook like to see what I'm up to with my nature photography, so I update them 'live' from my location by taking a photo of the back of my camera with my iPhone and uploading it to Facebook via the GSM network. As it is only a small file it goes up very quickly, then I can read comments whilst getting bored waiting for action!
Obviously in this example, I'm out in the middle of nowhere where there is no WiFi, but within a minute or so all my friends and family could see this:-
A compact camera with a 3g sim in it would do the same thing, but I don't know if it would be cost effective, it's reasons like this that the youth of today would rather take their pictures on a decent smart phone than a compact.
Posted 24/06/2011 - 12:25
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Unlocker wrote:
You don't really have any control over the Eye-Fi and it won't work out in the field where there is no WiFi. The point that was trying to be made was that you could take a shot, maybe edit it, then upload to Facebook / Flickr etc.
As an example a lot of my friends on Facebook like to see what I'm up to with my nature photography, so I update them 'live' from my location by taking a photo of the back of my camera with my iPhone and uploading it to Facebook via the GSM network. As it is only a small file it goes up very quickly, then I can read comments whilst getting bored waiting for action!
Obviously in this example, I'm out in the middle of nowhere where there is no WiFi, but within a minute or so all my friends and family could see this:-
A compact camera with a 3g sim in it would do the same thing, but I don't know if it would be cost effective, it's reasons like this that the youth of today would rather take their pictures on a decent smart phone than a compact.
Iphone camera kitAlgernon wrote:
Eye-Fi cards already upload to websites and there doesn't seem much interest in them from Pentax users.
Think you are missing the point there Algi.Eye-Fi cards already upload to websites and there doesn't seem much interest in them from Pentax users.
You don't really have any control over the Eye-Fi and it won't work out in the field where there is no WiFi. The point that was trying to be made was that you could take a shot, maybe edit it, then upload to Facebook / Flickr etc.
As an example a lot of my friends on Facebook like to see what I'm up to with my nature photography, so I update them 'live' from my location by taking a photo of the back of my camera with my iPhone and uploading it to Facebook via the GSM network. As it is only a small file it goes up very quickly, then I can read comments whilst getting bored waiting for action!
Obviously in this example, I'm out in the middle of nowhere where there is no WiFi, but within a minute or so all my friends and family could see this:-
A compact camera with a 3g sim in it would do the same thing, but I don't know if it would be cost effective, it's reasons like this that the youth of today would rather take their pictures on a decent smart phone than a compact.
Eye- fi cards now allow you to create an adhoc network, connect to your phone and send images wirelessly co computer required...
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so it'salready doable....
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 24/06/2011 - 17:24
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johnriley wrote:
A google search of Holga and Lomo will reveal a large alternative-photography style using amazingly poor cameras. I once sold an old tin "Empire Made" camera for an astonishing £45 for the same type of use.
It's a style and Pentax are offering an easy way to emulate this style.
You can do it in Lightroom for free by turning the clarity slider down A google search of Holga and Lomo will reveal a large alternative-photography style using amazingly poor cameras. I once sold an old tin "Empire Made" camera for an astonishing £45 for the same type of use.
It's a style and Pentax are offering an easy way to emulate this style.
Grad filters + negative clarity = lensbaby/lomography
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 24/06/2011 - 18:17
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Smeggypants wrote:
Grad filters + negative clarity = lensbaby/lomography
And, dedicated film users apart (like the Lomo brigade), most people can do that with their phones these days.johnriley wrote:
A google search of Holga and Lomo will reveal a large alternative-photography style using amazingly poor cameras. I once sold an old tin "Empire Made" camera for an astonishing £45 for the same type of use.
It's a style and Pentax are offering an easy way to emulate this style.
You can do it in Lightroom for free by turning the clarity slider down A google search of Holga and Lomo will reveal a large alternative-photography style using amazingly poor cameras. I once sold an old tin "Empire Made" camera for an astonishing £45 for the same type of use.
It's a style and Pentax are offering an easy way to emulate this style.
Grad filters + negative clarity = lensbaby/lomography
The Q does look like a neat stocking filler, but I hope they done their marketing maths right.
Posted 24/06/2011 - 18:25
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Sandehalynch wrote:
The Q does look like a neat stocking filler, but I hope they done their marketing maths right.
I used to get a Toblerone™
Smeggypants wrote:
Grad filters + negative clarity = lensbaby/lomography
And, dedicated film users apart (like the Lomo brigade), most people can do that with their phones these days.johnriley wrote:
A google search of Holga and Lomo will reveal a large alternative-photography style using amazingly poor cameras. I once sold an old tin "Empire Made" camera for an astonishing £45 for the same type of use.
It's a style and Pentax are offering an easy way to emulate this style.
You can do it in Lightroom for free by turning the clarity slider down A google search of Holga and Lomo will reveal a large alternative-photography style using amazingly poor cameras. I once sold an old tin "Empire Made" camera for an astonishing £45 for the same type of use.
It's a style and Pentax are offering an easy way to emulate this style.
Grad filters + negative clarity = lensbaby/lomography
The Q does look like a neat stocking filler, but I hope they done their marketing maths right.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 24/06/2011 - 20:12
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I just don't know who they are aiming this at.
Yes, it is the smallest CSC, yes it will probably have the best optics for the sensor, but, I am not sure. It is too expensive, not much smaller that the NEX-C3 and GF3, and that sensor! If it was based on the 1/1.63" of the fuji and panasonics of this world, then maybe. But the sensor is what you get in cheap P+S cameras!
Unless Pentax know something that we don't, then this camera will bomb big time.
I only hope that the rumoured "proper" CSC camera has an APS-C sensor that we can all think about getting as a backup to our mighty Pentax DSLR's.
In the meantime, we shall see.
Yes, it is the smallest CSC, yes it will probably have the best optics for the sensor, but, I am not sure. It is too expensive, not much smaller that the NEX-C3 and GF3, and that sensor! If it was based on the 1/1.63" of the fuji and panasonics of this world, then maybe. But the sensor is what you get in cheap P+S cameras!
Unless Pentax know something that we don't, then this camera will bomb big time.
I only hope that the rumoured "proper" CSC camera has an APS-C sensor that we can all think about getting as a backup to our mighty Pentax DSLR's.
In the meantime, we shall see.
Some Cameras
Posted 24/06/2011 - 21:23
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I don't know who they are aiming this at either.
It's a Sony Exmor R sensor AFAIK. I don't know of any other Sony backlit sensors.
Tiny little thing about 7mm across I think ??
Maybe Pentax are goign to relase an APS-C compact as well. I hope so.
It's a Sony Exmor R sensor AFAIK. I don't know of any other Sony backlit sensors.
Tiny little thing about 7mm across I think ??
Maybe Pentax are goign to relase an APS-C compact as well. I hope so.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 24/06/2011 - 22:51
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Smeggypants wrote:
I used to get a Toblerone™
I used to get a Toblerone™
But now the spoiled little kiddies get toy cameras with an added zero on their pricing! Conspicuous consumption gone mad!
I've blogged my impressions -- much the same as yours.
I ask all supporters if they are really happy with an f/10.5 lens that is diffraction limited at all apertures.
I guess it increases the toy appeal!
Posted 24/06/2011 - 23:00
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Offertonhatter wrote:
I just don't know who they are aiming this at.
I just don't know who they are aiming this at.
Smeggypants wrote:
I don't know who they are aiming this at either.
Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! I don't know who they are aiming this at either.
I haven't been this excited by a new camera since I saw the original GR-Digital for the first time - the Fuji X100 came close but I'd rather have the Q now it's here. I'm like a kid at Christmas right now and I really can't wait to get my hands on one of these - it's almost like the Pentax designers have reached inside my head and built me the camera I wanted, it's genius.
I am a very happy Pentax camper right now.
Joining the Q
Posted 24/06/2011 - 23:08
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hefty1 wrote:
I haven't been this excited by a new camera since I saw the original GR-Digital for the first time - the Fuji X100 came close but I'd rather have the Q now it's here. I'm like a kid at Christmas right now and I really can't wait to get my hands on one of these - it's almost like the Pentax designers have reached inside my head and built me the camera I wanted, it's genius.
I am a very happy Pentax camper right now.
gotta be honest... if I could afford it... it would be under the tree next Xmas for my littlest boy... he is a budding film maker.... that would be a fine upgrade to his flip camcorder...
Offertonhatter wrote:
I just don't know who they are aiming this at.
I just don't know who they are aiming this at.
Smeggypants wrote:
I don't know who they are aiming this at either.
Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! I don't know who they are aiming this at either.
I haven't been this excited by a new camera since I saw the original GR-Digital for the first time - the Fuji X100 came close but I'd rather have the Q now it's here. I'm like a kid at Christmas right now and I really can't wait to get my hands on one of these - it's almost like the Pentax designers have reached inside my head and built me the camera I wanted, it's genius.
I am a very happy Pentax camper right now.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
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....but they go and shoot themsevles in the foot at the outset-
who wants a TOY lens- conjours up a plastic tatty "MY FIRST SONY" image.
Has the original meaning been lost in translation or is this an acronym/pnemonic for some technical jargon?
Neil
The fisheye (not designated a 'Toy' lens, so probably optically good) is most interesting to me. It's suggested price is £130... not bad! When the camera price comes down, the Q + fisheye lens might almost look competitive with the DA10-16mm, and it would certainly get you places where a DSLR or even a Sony NEX would draw too much attention.